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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by UsmclovesXJ
13:1?
Lol...no, 8.8:1
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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lol I didn't know lol
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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heh, same as the engine in the E30 - plenty of scope for boost
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ivantheigor

But seriously they are very different...
Yes, they are. At least you got the joke.

Originally Posted by concretecowboy
Any American cars stock with a turbo? Preferably any older ones that are relatively affordable? haha
The "DSMs" were made in Normal, IL. There are also Ford Thunderbird turbo coupes. Mazda miatas were turbo at one point I thought. What's wrong with something not domestic? Most 'domestic' cars are from Mexico anyway.
Originally Posted by LongArmXJ
Actually not so much, they will get you by but not the best options out there by far. ive boosted many cars and work for a high performance shop for some time. if you are on a budget that the way to go but if you want it to be reliable and actually get some power out of it then you will need something more reliable.
If you have experience tuning a SAFC and EGT can be enough, a SAFC and wideband is easy. Use a pocket logger and laptop to monitor timing...but wait....I don't think the 4.0 can pull timing...
Originally Posted by LongArmXJ
i like em both but for a jeep that gets used in the trailes and on some rocks id rather have a sc due to the immediate power rather than the boost lag. but for mud bogging the lag wouldnt be a huge deal cause your revving the **** out of it lol. but the smaller the turbo the lower the rpms it will kick in. the bigger the turbo the longer the lag. it would be awesome to get a stroked 4L with a super charger and a turbo lol.
Build a hybrid turbo with an electric boost controller and external wastegate. You'll have boost anytime you want it. The 4.0 is big enough to spool a turbo pretty quick.

Originally Posted by subi_stout
they also hate cold cold. turn down boost when its freezing or it might end bad.
Actually quite the opposite. The colder the air the denser the charge. You just have to compensate with more fuel. And, depending on how cold, many crappy tunes can't compensate for the change.

Originally Posted by pepperson4
WOW this thread exploded. i am going to be installing bigger injectors and a 2 bar map sensor soon. just got my new oil feed line back form the hydraulic shop, so gonna throw it in tomorrow, also buying a boost gauge. i dont hear any tinging or knocking or anything. sounds totally normal under boost. surprisingly its spooling at about 3000 rpms roughly right now, little higher then i wanted. might have to go with a bigger downpipe for more flow. will post a video tomorrow keep comin with the suggestions!
@ Gee oh Dee- you have a tsi? ive really been looking into one but cant afford the $2500 price tag plus the cost of building one up!
A white 93 Eclipse GSX with a black top and black rims. There are a couple FB pics out there...
Originally Posted by TheDale
I have built 3 dsm's. Jeeps are way cheaper. DSM's are fun when they run though.
I hate hearing this. They are very reliable. Most people just hack them together with half assed mods they think are cool. Example venting the BOV to the atmosphere without converting to blow through. Then, when their rigged car doesn't run right they blame the car instead of their lack of knowledge. I see way too many of these cars on craigslist with missing vacuum lines and hoses plugged by screw drivers or golf *****. Then there are the guys that make a MBC out of hardware store pressure fittings and boost their 14b to 60psi and blow the head clear off the block when the stock fuel pump melts.

And that's enough of a rant from me about how the DSM got its poor reputation.

Originally Posted by Morat
The cheapest way to do it "properly" is megasquirt and a wideband o2 sensor. It'll take some setting up but there must be someone out there who has done it to a 4.0 before.... you could try talking to people on e30tech - they like doing this sort of thing to e30 bmws with the 2.5l straight six. They've got some insane power out of those things, but the head does flow nicely from stock...

What is the compression ratio of the stock 4.0?
Yes, megasquirt would be good, and much better. But the price is a putoff for most.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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I just prefer domestic cars and companies. I've been kind of looking around at imports now though.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee

Yes, megasquirt would be good, and much better. But the price is a putoff for most.

I ran megasquirt in my old '86 VW GTI... it's an incredible system but takes hours upon hours upon hours of reading alone. Then you have to learn the tuning system, which involves more reading and a lot trial and error. Once you have a base line set and everything is running, it becomes easier and easier. If you have the time, definitely get megasquirt!!!

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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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i wish i oculd but i dont have that kind of money
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...-picts-661277/
^ this guy has the same turbo as me on the 4.0, only running a 12:1 FMU and a booster pump? another option? the turque curve on his is great for 6psi
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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installed boost guage and new oil feed line. turns out at almost 4k rpms im only running like 2psi? not spoooling neought? i checked for boost leaks? and wastegate isnt opening anymore, maybe an exhaust leak
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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DSMs FTW!
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The91XJ
DSMs FTW!
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Lol
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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i agree DSM's
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I found this thread on NAXJA and figured it might help out here as well.
http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1031285
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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WOW that turbo build is nuts!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...=713450&page=2
heres another turbo xj build^
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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very very very sick!
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