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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by guinelle1
like why did my statement deserve such extravagant flaming session?
If your load comes loose a happens to kill an innocent person or family that's yours for the rest of your life, this is serious. In such an event insurance companies will leave you high & dry as well.
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
If your load comes loose a happens to kill an innocent person or family that's yours for the rest of your life, this is serious. In such an event insurance companies will leave you high & dry as well.
This. You come in calling myself out with your ignorance. You get flamed.

You deserved every harsh word I said.

Also kid, before you attempt to insult someone make sure you know **** about them.

I have been on my own since 16. My parents have never paid for any of my ****. I paid for every single one of the 78 vehicles, and every modification I have done to them. I also paid for my house, all my toys, my rv, my trailer, my guns, etc.

Next time you have input on something you have no idea about, stay quiet. Adults are talking.
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 11:16 PM
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This community treats people like they deserve to be treated. This isn't kindergarten. This is the real world.

You act stupid, you get treated like so.

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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
This community treats people like they deserve to be treated. This isn't kindergarten. This is the real world.

You act stupid, you get treated like so.

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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
This. You come in calling myself out with your ignorance. You get flamed.

You deserved every harsh word I said.

Also kid, before you attempt to insult someone make sure you know **** about them.

I have been on my own since 16. My parents have never paid for any of my ****. I paid for every single one of the 78 vehicles, and every modification I have done to them. I also paid for my house, all my toys, my rv, my trailer, my guns, etc.

Next time you have input on something you have no idea about, stay quiet. Adults are talking.

I wanted to be done with this thread but you honestly make yourself look like more of a jackass with each post. you never even admited you were wrong on when i clearly responded to your post about the bumper and frame. you seemed pretty confident it was "impossible"

You tend to brag way too much about how great your life is. jeez.

I run a flatbed for a living (not a tow truck) and tie down heavy equipment all the time, now not alot of those have suspension but i do often haul trailers or other pieces with suspension and have always just tied down right to the body/frame of the item. and never had a problem. that is the ONLY reason i responded with such confidence.

If you REALLY think those posts you made are mature and make you look like an adult. maybe you are in kindergarten.

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Also kid, before you attempt to insult someone make sure you know **** about them.
i dont even need to elaborate on this.. why dont you follow your own advice?
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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 06:42 PM
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I'm not wrong. The only person wrong, is you.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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SOOOOOOOO............ does anybody have a link to these axle style ratchet strap?

I started this thread because I know proper securing of a load is important. While there is several ways to tie down I was looking for proper locarions to secure on our unibodies and the equipment everyone is using.

I grew up around flat bedded and I know that DOT will nail you to the ground if you load is not properly secured. That'd why o have chains a ratchet binders. And they will take the bounce out of the suspension.

I also see people using straps over the tires, axles, and some even hook to the unibody.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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http://bfy.tw/2uF0

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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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I'll just leave this here...

https://www.hagerty.com/assets/PDF/T...ngPamphlet.pdf
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnutcertifies
SOOOOOOOO............ does anybody have a link to these axle style ratchet strap?

I started this thread because I know proper securing of a load is important. While there is several ways to tie down I was looking for proper locarions to secure on our unibodies and the equipment everyone is using.

I grew up around flat bedded and I know that DOT will nail you to the ground if you load is not properly secured. That'd why o have chains a ratchet binders. And they will take the bounce out of the suspension.

I also see people using straps over the tires, axles, and some even hook to the unibody.

The straps are short and have 2 D type rings on each end (what I use) and those use a short car ratchet strap. Others are all one piece and use a similar setup for those you can find both at Summit or Jegs. They can even be bought in complete sets for the straps and usually the axle straps are sold by them selves as most are for race cars.


FYI I was in the Wrecker business for 9 yrs in CO. and owned 4 companies out there in the Denver area and West. Had tow trucks from 1 ton to KW's and roll backs so did a little of it all 1000's in fact. At that time most all we used were chains and J-Hooks for towing it was the 70's. Very few straps used at all then compared to today where even tractor trailer rigs have straps built into the trailers a lot.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by roninofako
Lol he will say the bumper is part of the chassis. It's not. It's the Damn body.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
http://bfy.tw/2uF0

Axle straps

Damn my browser had not updated when I posted lol.
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
Lol he will say the bumper is part of the chassis. It's not. It's the Damn body.
Yup.

If you read that entire pdf, and know the differences of the parts of a vehicle, you'll be golden, LOL...

There is a specific portion of that document that specifically says you want the suspension to cycle normally, as it would going down the road on it's own. Compress the suspension by strapping down the wrong points puts tension on the load, and we all know what happens to a compressed spring once it lets go. It flies.

OP, follow the basic steps, and tie down properly, and you'll have zero issues.

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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnutcertifies
SOOOOOOOO............ does anybody have a link to these axle style ratchet strap?

I started this thread because I know proper securing of a load is important. While there is several ways to tie down I was looking for proper locarions to secure on our unibodies and the equipment everyone is using.

I grew up around flat bedded and I know that DOT will nail you to the ground if you load is not properly secured. That'd why o have chains a ratchet binders. And they will take the bounce out of the suspension.

I also see people using straps over the tires, axles, and some even hook to the unibody.

ive counted atleast 20 rollback drivers just in the past few days that ive seen with just the winch sucking the front down and a chain in the back. car suspension sucked completely tight.
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by guinelle1
ive counted atleast 20 rollback drivers just in the past few days that ive seen with just the winch sucking the front down and a chain in the back. car suspension sucked completely tight.

First time I saw one of my drivers doing that he would have been looking for a new job.
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