Tons of extra weight in the back
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Do you understand why a person who is into off roading would install off roading equipment into their jeep?
Pretty much the same concept isn't it?
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I'm not big in extremist of any sort. I have a 10" in a stealth box that goes into the passenger wheel-well to not take any cargo space. I'm just not a fan of no trunk space, especially in a vehicle that sees some offroad abuse where cargo space for tools is more important than a huge box for sound. To each their own, but I'm just speaking from a general functionality perspective.
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To each his own is the thing. All that space you want for tools and parts to go offroading he wants for speakers to win audio contests.
A guy like me who's XJ is relatively stock and can't go wheeling without crossing state lines could easily say carrying a bunch of tools and parts around is crazy, just get AAA.
I wouldn't say that though, because I think off roading is cool, I just don't live in an area where it's legal so I don't get to play.
Let me ask you this though since you have more experience with lifts springs and hauling weight. If I wanted to carry 500 pounds of tools and spare parts in the back of my XJ and my 3" RC lift was sagging in the back what should I do to the rear suspension to level it?
A guy like me who's XJ is relatively stock and can't go wheeling without crossing state lines could easily say carrying a bunch of tools and parts around is crazy, just get AAA.
I wouldn't say that though, because I think off roading is cool, I just don't live in an area where it's legal so I don't get to play.
Let me ask you this though since you have more experience with lifts springs and hauling weight. If I wanted to carry 500 pounds of tools and spare parts in the back of my XJ and my 3" RC lift was sagging in the back what should I do to the rear suspension to level it?
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From: lake stevens, wa
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not to mention the fact that the xj is a flimsy tin can as far as containing spl is concerned. if spl was his goal, you'd think he'd care enough to choose an appropriate vehicle for it.
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problem is that he wants to combine the 2, and that's a lot of weight to be pitching side to side on trails.
not to mention the fact that the xj is a flimsy tin can as far as containing spl is concerned. if spl was his goal, you'd think he'd care enough to choose an appropriate vehicle for it.
not to mention the fact that the xj is a flimsy tin can as far as containing spl is concerned. if spl was his goal, you'd think he'd care enough to choose an appropriate vehicle for it.
As far as SPL... I don't know where you are getting your info from. XJs are actually great vehicles for SPL. My xj does a 151.1 dB @38 hz. 4 15s in 18 cubes tuned to 31hz. 6000 watts rms @ .5 ohms, 350 amp alt, 6x 50ah batts, and 2 runs of 2/0 ofc wiring. There are many other Cherokees doing 55s and 60s+. In fact a guy local to me is the 2x SPL world record holder and he drives...an xj.
Tl;dr I just want to lift my jeep an inch in the front and a couple inches in the back to fit 32s. Keep in mind I have 500 pounds of stuff in the back. I am not worried about ride quality or off-road capability. What's my best option?
Any idea how much springs like these cost? Or do they vary by shop/purpose they are built for? I'm just trying to get an idea of what the cost before I call so if the guy shoots me an estimate way over what it should be I can look for a different shop that's not gonna try to over charge me
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Let me ask you this though since you have more experience with lifts springs and hauling weight. If I wanted to carry 500 pounds of tools and spare parts in the back of my XJ and my 3" RC lift was sagging in the back what should I do to the rear suspension to level it?
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I heard that spacer blocks under the leaf spring were always a bad idea?
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I have a buddy that stands by his blocks, on 5" lift with 33s and beats it with no issues over the years. From the way I see it, it's the same as wheel spacers, as long as you check them and tighten them they're fine. Just have to make sure you get steel blocks and not aluminum. Small (1-2") blocks are fine, many pick ups come with blocks from the factory and haul serious business with no issues. I would feel comfortable with a 1" block with the 85% street use and 15% offroad use that my XJ experiences.
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easy to build a wall in because of the shape, but you're losing pressure due to panel deflection. unless you add even more weight by beefing up the body with a lot of reinforcement.
anyways.. just shop around for the company that advertises the stiffest springrates and go from there. the ride won't be the greatest, but it'll help with sag.
anyways.. just shop around for the company that advertises the stiffest springrates and go from there. the ride won't be the greatest, but it'll help with sag.
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I have a buddy that stands by his blocks, on 5" lift with 33s and beats it with no issues over the years. From the way I see it, it's the same as wheel spacers, as long as you check them and tighten them they're fine. Just have to make sure you get steel blocks and not aluminum. Small (1-2") blocks are fine, many pick ups come with blocks from the factory and haul serious business with no issues. I would feel comfortable with a 1" block with the 85% street use and 15% offroad use that my XJ experiences.
easy to build a wall in because of the shape, but you're losing pressure due to panel deflection. unless you add even more weight by beefing up the body with a lot of reinforcement.
anyways.. just shop around for the company that advertises the stiffest springrates and go from there. the ride won't be the greatest, but it'll help with sag.
anyways.. just shop around for the company that advertises the stiffest springrates and go from there. the ride won't be the greatest, but it'll help with sag.
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Good to hear, could I use a combination of block and shackle relocation? Cuz the way I see it...first I need to fix the problem of sag, then I need to lift it another inch to fit 32s. So if each one gives me 1.5-2" inches I should be golden. Then I just have to put a coil spacer up front. I just don't want the combination of block and shackle to bend my leaf at a weird angle or make it do something crazy and fail.
Custom leaf springs can cost between 400 to 600 bucks depends the shop.Or if its a local shop ask if they can re arch your springs and add a leaf or two for the extra weight.


