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Cheddarnut 04-29-2015 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by cherokee001 (Post 3081018)
Thanks - not going to stock size but 29 would be fine with me. Probably will sell the duratracs locally and pick up something else. Just having a hard time deciding. What do you think I could get for my wheels and tires. Duratracs have about 15k on them IIRC and wheels were $100/ea, but are starting to rust. They are 31x10.50x15 4wd.com keeps pushing the BFG AT, but they just look aggressive to me. Appreciate all the input guys.

Not suggesting stock size tires, suggesting stock wheels and keeping the 31x10x15 size. You can pick up stock rims all over cheap and the BFG is a good tire but some others are as good. I would shop a local tire shop to get a few options. General and mastercraft have some good tires with reasonable tread design. You might pay slightly more but you get them the same day, don't pay shipping and they put them on for you. If the tires are in good shape, you could probably get 250-300 for the set. Time for craigslist.

Tsaani97xj 04-29-2015 10:39 AM

Look up tram lining. Then lower your tire pressure a couple pounds and take it for a ride. The following of the ruts in the highway and that unstable feeling is mainly caused by the tires and coupled with poor steering/suspension geometry. I chased this for a long while. I had some Uniroyal Laredo AS/AT type tires in 31s, which my wife called cadillac tires lol (got 4 used for $100 and got 50k out of them!), I had the same symptoms and just knew it was my suspension/steering. Found the info on tramming or tram lining and turns out brand new JKs do this off the lot when tire pressure is too high. Lowered the pressure and it was significantly better. Now I run TW Guard Dogs, much more aggressive, and I can ride down the trucker lane at 70 and is stable as can be. Air these up too high and the wandering returns although not as bad.

cherokee001 04-29-2015 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Tsaani97xj (Post 3081045)
Look up tram lining. Then lower your tire pressure a couple pounds and take it for a ride. The following of the ruts in the highway and that unstable feeling is mainly caused by the tires and coupled with poor steering/suspension geometry. I chased this for a long while. I had some Uniroyal Laredo AS/AT type tires in 31s, which my wife called cadillac tires lol (got 4 used for $100 and got 50k out of them!), I had the same symptoms and just knew it was my suspension/steering. Found the info on tramming or tram lining and turns out brand new JKs do this off the lot when tire pressure is too high. Lowered the pressure and it was significantly better. Now I run TW Guard Dogs, much more aggressive, and I can ride down the trucker lane at 70 and is stable as can be. Air these up too high and the wandering returns although not as bad.


Thanks for the info... never knew there was a word for my issue. Tramlining. I run my tires at 33psi which is the recommended pressure. would think that lowering them would make tramlining worse.

Tsaani97xj 04-29-2015 01:13 PM

33 PSI by what standard? As tire size goes up the required pressure goes down. I know it doesn't seem logical. Lowering the pressure allows the tire to change shape and mold, so to speak, to the differences in the road surface. When it is too hard it gets pushed and pulled around just like you were in deep ruts. It cant hurt, drop down to 25-28psi and take it for a ride. You will likely be amazed at the difference not only in handling but ride comfort as well. There is a lot of information about tire pressure out there, I would also recommend doing a good bit of research on that. There is some solid math to determine the proper tire pressure for your vehicle weight.

SteveMongr 04-29-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by cherokee001 (Post 3081100)
Thanks for the info... never knew there was a word for my issue. Tramlining. I run my tires at 33psi which is the recommended pressure. would think that lowering them would make tramlining worse.

That is the recommended pressure for 225/70/15.
For your 31" tires, 28psi should be plenty and will make a big difference in ride quality.
Tsaani97xj has it spot on.

cherokee001 04-29-2015 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tsaani97xj (Post 3081107)
33 PSI by what standard? As tire size goes up the required pressure goes down. I know it doesn't seem logical. Lowering the pressure allows the tire to change shape and mold, so to speak, to the differences in the road surface. When it is too hard it gets pushed and pulled around just like you were in deep ruts. It cant hurt, drop down to 25-28psi and take it for a ride. You will likely be amazed at the difference not only in handling but ride comfort as well. There is a lot of information about tire pressure out there, I would also recommend doing a good bit of research on that. There is some solid math to determine the proper tire pressure for your vehicle weight.

did not know that... always thought that regardless the tire size you use the recommended PSI that the car recommends.

basegrinder 05-05-2015 02:34 AM

I'm just here to vote for Cooper Discoverer AT3s. Quiet and I found them pretty good in mud, and great in snow

cherokee001 05-05-2015 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by basegrinder (Post 3083654)
I'm just here to vote for Cooper Discoverer AT3s. Quiet and I found them pretty good in mud, and great in snow

went with BFG 30x9.5. Hoping i didn't make a mistake.

btw my old duratracs with about 15k miles on them. holy hell craigslist went nuts. I had them at $475 with my rims and my phone lit up. I should have asked more money!!!

unidentifiedbomb 05-05-2015 11:07 AM

I think the BFG T/As look a lot more aggressive than AT3s. I personally like the General AT2s more than the two previously mentioned.

cherokee001 05-05-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb (Post 3083782)
I think the BFG T/As look a lot more aggressive than AT3s. I personally like the General AT2s more than the two previously mentioned.

I was actually annoyed that 4wd where i bought the rims didn't offer cooper. I probably would have gone taht direction. too late now and have to deal with it, either way they are less aggressive than Duratracs.

I'm sure i'll have regrets that I didn't get Cooper. :(

unidentifiedbomb 05-05-2015 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by cherokee001 (Post 3083799)
I was actually annoyed that 4wd where i bought the rims didn't offer cooper. I probably would have gone taht direction. too late now and have to deal with it, either way they are less aggressive than Duratracs.

I'm sure i'll have regrets that I didn't get Cooper. :(

I'm sure they have a no satisfied guarantee within a certain amount of miles. But it shouldn't be this complicated lol T/As are very good on the road too.

cherokee001 05-11-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb (Post 3083896)
I'm sure they have a no satisfied guarantee within a certain amount of miles. But it shouldn't be this complicated lol T/As are very good on the road too.

Gotta say i'm a little disappointed in the recommendation of getting BFG ATKO from 4wd and just in the general writeups. They look almost exactly like the duratracs. Don't have them on the road yet, but i'm anticipating these things riding just like the GYs.

Def not an ideal road tire with offroad capabilities from the look of them. Hoping after some miles i change my mind. :sweatdrop:

cherokee001 05-16-2015 09:29 AM

So end of the day I don't regret my decision and do really like the BFGs, going from 10.5 to 9.5 was the best decision, tires are quiet, turn radius is 2x better, ride comfort and handling on the road is just astounding. Those big wheels are better suited for MOAB!


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amcherokee 06-16-2015 04:32 PM

Newbie here Currently looking for some O.E. 10 spoke "turbine" wheels for my new project : '88 Cheroke Pioneer Resturation . Any body got any please P.M. me here. Thanks


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