Originally Posted by Ianf406
(Post 3080333)
Idk man... Ive ran a ton of different tires over the years and the Durratracs are one of the quietest/smoothest out there. I am going to go with the other guys on this. Go back to stock and use some decent dedicated street tires if you are worried about mpg. Gearing also makes a big difference as does having your motor running in tip top shape.
I have a stock XJ with regular old street tires and my big one doesn't ride anyworse... the stock XJ gets better milage but its not rocking 1000lbs of extra armor, axles etc. Not a chance i'm going through the trouble of lowering my jeep, plus i like the higher ride height. I'd rather it just drive better, keep the bad mpg and keep it at 3" lift. So that's why I am in the "what tire to get debate". So I can enjoy the height, and have a more planted road feel. I don't do any offroading and just have lots of fun in the snow in winter. I recall the AT3s just doing fine in the snow, so maybe i'll go that route. hmm.... |
I have 31 duratracs and my biggest complaint is that they don't come in 35s.... they look brand new still after a year and a half and do great on my 650 mile round trips from college and home.
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What I ment to get across is maybe you have something else wrong? the Durratracs are a great tire. for example, mine was getting pretty bad... bouncingall over the road etc. I ccould still keep on the road at 70 but it was not a fun time. I replaced all of my bushings/flex joints in my long arms and now I can cruise at 80 or so without any problem.
Before giving up on the Durratracs completely, try borrowing a set of something else from another local jeeper and seeing how they feel. Unfortunately though, The few extra lbs wont save you that much gas... You are driving a lifted brick haha. It may seem like it as you get your speedometer gear closer in ratio to where it is supposed to be (if you've never changed it) but the Durratracs are also one of the lightest tires out their for their size. The BFG ATKOs are a heavy favorite for a solid AT in the Jeep world. They are not as good in the snow as what you have but still work great. Long tread life and durables enough if you do take it off the pavement someday. |
Originally Posted by Ianf406
(Post 3080452)
What I ment to get across is maybe you have something else wrong? the Durratracs are a great tire. for example, mine was getting pretty bad... bouncingall over the road etc. I ccould still keep on the road at 70 but it was not a fun time. I replaced all of my bushings/flex joints in my long arms and now I can cruise at 80 or so without any problem.
Before giving up on the Durratracs completely, try borrowing a set of something else from another local jeeper and seeing how they feel. Unfortunately though, The few extra lbs wont save you that much gas... You are driving a lifted brick haha. It may seem like it as you get your speedometer gear closer in ratio to where it is supposed to be (if you've never changed it) but the Durratracs are also one of the lightest tires out their for their size. The BFG ATKOs are a heavy favorite for a solid AT in the Jeep world. They are not as good in the snow as what you have but still work great. Long tread life and durables enough if you do take it off the pavement someday. |
Yeah it shouldn't cause steering issues like that. I'd take a look at your tie rod ends, and track bar. The MPG hit is real, but it shouldn't be very sloppy.
Did you do the ZJ tie rod upgrade? I did that and it seemed to crisp up the steering a bit, especially at speed. |
Originally Posted by kgm
(Post 3080503)
Yeah it shouldn't cause steering issues like that. I'd take a look at your tie rod ends, and track bar. The MPG hit is real, but it shouldn't be very sloppy.
Did you do the ZJ tie rod upgrade? I did that and it seemed to crisp up the steering a bit, especially at speed. I'll have to ask. thx |
Originally Posted by cherokee001
(Post 3080413)
I have the 15x10.50 in 31" and they just track all over the highway and feel unstable at highspeeds, getting past 65mph the truck struggles.
After you turn a corner, does jeep straighten itself out? If not, not enough caster. My rig tracks well and will run past 80 mph on flat pavement. Had an XJ with 33" Swampers and it tracked surprisingly well. My point is, it's not just the tires. |
Originally Posted by SteveMongr
(Post 3080590)
The wandering/tracking is not caused by the tires unless they are in very bad shape. Caster is a more likely culprit, also worn steering components.
After you turn a corner, does jeep straighten itself out? If not, not enough caster. My rig tracks well and will run past 80 mph on flat pavement. Had an XJ with 33" Swampers and it tracked surprisingly well. My point is, it's not just the tires. Now that spring-fall seasons are here I have to deal with rain and the Duratracs were pretty bad in the rain, so proper tread is a high priority. :brickwall: |
Originally Posted by cherokee001
(Post 3080661)
Duratracs were pretty bad in the rain
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The 30 x 9.5 is a flotation tire and will be a few pounds heavier than an equivalent P tire. Also will ride less smooth due to added plys and be more expensive.
I believe the BFG AT comes in Passenger type. |
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I'm running 35s on a 3 lift and mine rides great, I love my dura tracks one of the smoothest quiet tires I've ever had. As long As they are rotated regularly I don't see why they wouldn't stay that way, and I get 12-16 mpg on 4.10s. |
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
(Post 3080420)
I have 31 duratracs and my biggest complaint is that they don't come in 35s....
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Originally Posted by cherokee001
(Post 3080484)
Thanks that was helpful. I thought the duratracs were pretty damn heavy though. I thought I had the bushings fixed about 20k ago, but i'll have to check. If i can get the dura's running smooth i'd be fine. Just can't stand the highway instability and excessive play in steering from the wide tires. The new Shocks and steering bushings helped, but not enough. Figured more flat (less knobby) tire would help even more.
I would still hit up some guys in your local area and still try swapping the tires. If that fixes it for ya, then the tires could have been worn terribly and are your problem. If it doesn't, then you k is you have to look else where :) And come on you other guys... get some 16" rims and you can get the Durratrac/tons of other tires in a 35... 15s are dying off. |
Originally Posted by cherokee001
(Post 3080413)
I have the 15x10.50 in 31" and they just track all over the highway and feel unstable at highspeeds, getting past 65mph the truck struggles. Even the auto guys I go to said they were pretty loud and were surprised. I did have bad shocks and those messed with my tire wear so they are louder than normal, still, it's the the nimbleness and planted feel on the road I miss. Not a chance i'm going through the trouble of lowering my jeep, plus i like the higher ride height. I'd rather it just drive better, keep the bad mpg and keep it at 3" lift. So that's why I am in the "what tire to get debate". So I can enjoy the height, and have a more planted road feel. I don't do any offroading and just have lots of fun in the snow in winter. I recall the AT3s just doing fine in the snow, so maybe i'll go that route. hmm....
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Originally Posted by Cheddarnut
(Post 3081010)
It's not such a big deal, just go back to stock wheels, 15x7 or 15x8 and stay with 31's and AT or less aggressive tread design. There are five or six good, reasonable AT tires that will ride pretty quiet. Three in lift and 31's on stock rims is a great look and it will get you almost under the fenders with stock back spacing.
What do you think I could get for my wheels and tires. Duratracs have about 15k on them IIRC and wheels were $100/ea, but are starting to rust. They are 31x10.50x15 4wd.com keeps pushing the BFG AT, but they just look aggressive to me. Appreciate all the input guys. |
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