Possible to get an '01 without a weak head?
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From: St. Albert
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
But the head isn't broken yet. What I am trying to figure out is if the head cracking is actually a statistically big deal, or if we just see a lot of it because when people need help they come to the forum, and therefore are more predisposed to thinking its a problem with the majority of 00-01 XJs.
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From: s.jersey
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
personally i think too many make too big a deal out of it. i'll bet half the people saying stay away are only repeating what they read on the internet and have no first hand experience with the possible problem. tons of them still out there as daily drivers that have never cracked a head. now thats not saying there wasn't a batch that must have had an issue since they updated the design with the tupy but i think the issue is over blown a bit..
if its a clean 5 speed and ya like everything else about it then buy it.
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Last edited by abodyjoe; Oct 20, 2016 at 11:32 AM.
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From: Ocean County, NJ
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
yup, see, now I am thinking I should get the '01 and just replace the head. It depends on what the coolant looks like, if its brown, I may still pass on it, because it could be that there is bearing problems already, due to it running four years on a cracked head. But if its clean... I may get it. Like what abodyjoe and EvstaG said, this may not be such a big problem, and even if it is, I can just swap out the head and then not worry about it. That is only if I know the engine is not already damaged.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
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From: Ocean County, NJ
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
But the head isn't broken yet. What I am trying to figure out is if the head cracking is actually a statistically big deal, or if we just see a lot of it because when people need help they come to the forum, and therefore are more predisposed to thinking its a problem with the majority of 00-01 XJs.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i never offer or pay what a sellers asking price is . like i said budget the $500 to change the head if it scares you so much.
personally i think too many make too big a deal out of it. i'll bet half the people saying stay away are only repeating what they read on the internet and have no first hand experience with the possible problem. tons of them still out there as daily drivers that have never cracked a head. now thats not saying there wasn't a batch that must have had an issue since they updated the design with the tupy but i think the issue is over blown a bit..
if its a clean 5 speed and ya like everything else about it then buy it.
.
personally i think too many make too big a deal out of it. i'll bet half the people saying stay away are only repeating what they read on the internet and have no first hand experience with the possible problem. tons of them still out there as daily drivers that have never cracked a head. now thats not saying there wasn't a batch that must have had an issue since they updated the design with the tupy but i think the issue is over blown a bit..
if its a clean 5 speed and ya like everything else about it then buy it.
.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
yup, see, now I am thinking I should get the '01 and just replace the head. It depends on what the coolant looks like, if its brown, I may still pass on it, because it could be that there is bearing problems already, due to it running four years on a cracked head. But if its clean... I may get it. Like what abodyjoe and EvstaG said, this may not be such a big problem, and even if it is, I can just swap out the head and then not worry about it. That is only if I know the engine is not already damaged.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
. if odo is honest its about 90000,good oil pressure.
these motors seem to hold oil pressure at hi miles better than others ive known,(fords).
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From: s.jersey
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
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From: s.jersey
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it all depends on condition condition condition.. either way i'm knocking at least $500 probably more off of either vehicle thats for sale..
Last edited by abodyjoe; Oct 20, 2016 at 01:34 PM.
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From: s.jersey
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
yup, see, now I am thinking I should get the '01 and just replace the head. It depends on what the coolant looks like, if its brown, I may still pass on it, because it could be that there is bearing problems already, due to it running four years on a cracked head. But if its clean... I may get it. Like what abodyjoe and EvstaG said, this may not be such a big problem, and even if it is, I can just swap out the head and then not worry about it. That is only if I know the engine is not already damaged.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
Problem is... seller is asking 8500 due to a lot of aftermarket suspension mods. I like the mods, but cant justify 8500. I could maybe justify 5500. I doubt he'll go that low considering his starting point.
$8500? holy cow.. what mods are done to this thing? it had better be show room new looking too.
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From: Ocean County, NJ
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
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From: Ocean County, NJ
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Should get him on the forum. Great place to learn! Hopefully we can get a trip together soon or something. Haven't seen you guys in a while!



