Older XJs, worth it?
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Older XJs, worth it?
Currently have a 99 sport (2wd)
Thinking about getting a 94-96 in the future. I really like the older cherokee body and interior and especially the 94 and older steering wheel (No air bag)
However my dad keeps telling me to avoid the older ones due to age and things breaking. I know to stay away from 84-90 but in my opinion 91-96 are still decent, no closed cooling system bull****. But then again, age. Things wear out but I'm thinking it's worth it, just love the older body and interior so much. Another reason I want a new XJ in the future is due to my current being 2wd, it was my first car so I didn't care, that's my only regret really. 250k miles and runs like a champ. What are your guys thoughts on the 91-96 cherokees, any major issues? They seem to be practically the same to the 97-01 apart from the body and interior.
Thinking about getting a 94-96 in the future. I really like the older cherokee body and interior and especially the 94 and older steering wheel (No air bag)
However my dad keeps telling me to avoid the older ones due to age and things breaking. I know to stay away from 84-90 but in my opinion 91-96 are still decent, no closed cooling system bull****. But then again, age. Things wear out but I'm thinking it's worth it, just love the older body and interior so much. Another reason I want a new XJ in the future is due to my current being 2wd, it was my first car so I didn't care, that's my only regret really. 250k miles and runs like a champ. What are your guys thoughts on the 91-96 cherokees, any major issues? They seem to be practically the same to the 97-01 apart from the body and interior.
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I have a 96, and I love it. Its all manual (locks, windows, mirrors). But it does have a driver airbag. It also has full OBD2, which is nice for scanning/data diagnosis.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
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I have a 96, and I love it. Its all manual (locks, windows, mirrors). But it does have a driver airbag. It also has full OBD2, which is nice for scanning/data diagnosis.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
so yeah, 96 has all the benefits if you have similar tastes like us. older body style, OBDII, airbags (although you said no airbags in your post.. but i think it's good to have them if you daily drive it) and also the year with the most XJs sold if i'm not mistaken. yeah the fuel pump is a one-off year but you can get the whole assembly for a good price online, other than that lots of sensors are from 97 so that's important to know.
get it with manual doors/windows to avoid eletrical issues. some say 96-97 are bad when it comes to wiring but i personally haven't had any issues when it comes to that. only replaced sensors (TPS, CPS, o2)
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x2 on everything he said. 96 here also and had no clue what i was getting when i bought the jeep. i wasn't even looking for a car and the opportunity came.
so yeah, 96 has all the benefits if you have similar tastes like us. older body style, OBDII, airbags (although you said no airbags in your post.. but i think it's good to have them if you daily drive it) and also the year with the most XJs sold if i'm not mistaken. yeah the fuel pump is a one-off year but you can get the whole assembly for a good price online, other than that lots of sensors are from 97 so that's important to know.
get it with manual doors/windows to avoid eletrical issues. some say 96-97 are bad when it comes to wiring but i personally haven't had any issues when it comes to that. only replaced sensors (TPS, CPS, o2)
so yeah, 96 has all the benefits if you have similar tastes like us. older body style, OBDII, airbags (although you said no airbags in your post.. but i think it's good to have them if you daily drive it) and also the year with the most XJs sold if i'm not mistaken. yeah the fuel pump is a one-off year but you can get the whole assembly for a good price online, other than that lots of sensors are from 97 so that's important to know.
get it with manual doors/windows to avoid eletrical issues. some say 96-97 are bad when it comes to wiring but i personally haven't had any issues when it comes to that. only replaced sensors (TPS, CPS, o2)
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I have a 96, and I love it. Its all manual (locks, windows, mirrors). But it does have a driver airbag. It also has full OBD2, which is nice for scanning/data diagnosis.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
The 96 was a very good year for sales, so there is pretty decent parts availability, though 60% of the parts you buy won't be different between the 96 and 97. If you have a late-in-the-year 96 like mine, almost everything is 97 (sensors, connectors, etc.).
The 96 also was the last year for the fuel tank with the access port on the front, which is nice (don't have to lower the tank to work on the pump). But it also was a one-off year for the in-tank fuel pump assembly, making it probably the one part on the 96 that is a little rare and a little expensive (compared to other parts that are dirt cheap).
I knew next to nothing about the differences in 96-99 XJs when I bought mine. I probably should have studied up more. But I lucked out and got something that has worked well for me. I wouldn't hesitate to get a 96 again if I had to do it all over.
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I have a 93 and a 96 they are both great platforms, the only major things I've noticed as far differences (other than what has already been said) is the 93 has only one O2 sensor whereas my 96 has two of them, also the 93 has a fuel return line and the fuel pressure regulator mounted on the engine bay, my 96 had issues with heat soak that the 93 doesn't I believe it is due to the fuel return line setup. Additionally I love the seats in the 93 compared to the 96 they adjust backwards on a bit of an arc shape so they sit lower which is good because I'm 6'2" and they have "bolsters" (i think that's what they're called) that hold you in place better than the 96's did. But the 96 does have (or so I've read) a slightly stronger unibody and reinforced roof, so it is technically better in that respect. But either way pre-97 body style is way better IMO as far as looks. The lack of cup holders is something to take into consideration though
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I have a 93 and a 96 they are both great platforms, the only major things I've noticed as far differences (other than what has already been said) is the 93 has only one O2 sensor whereas my 96 has two of them, also the 93 has a fuel return line and the fuel pressure regulator mounted on the engine bay, my 96 had issues with heat soak that the 93 doesn't I believe it is due to the fuel return line setup. Additionally I love the seats in the 93 compared to the 96 they adjust backwards on a bit of an arc shape so they sit lower which is good because I'm 6'2" and they have "bolsters" (i think that's what they're called) that hold you in place better than the 96's did. But the 96 does have (or so I've read) a slightly stronger unibody and reinforced roof, so it is technically better in that respect. But either way pre-97 body style is way better IMO as far as looks. The lack of cup holders is something to take into consideration though
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I had a '92 and I loved it. 275K miles and it ran/drove like a champ. Biggest headache I recall was chasing down the typical blower motor gremlins, and constantly fixing broken vacuum lines(brittle plastic).
Cup holders are no biggie, the 97+ console can be transplanted with a little work.
Cup holders are no biggie, the 97+ console can be transplanted with a little work.
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I had a '92 and I loved it. 275K miles and it ran/drove like a champ. Biggest headache I recall was chasing down the typical blower motor gremlins, and constantly fixing broken vacuum lines(brittle plastic).
Cup holders are no biggie, the 97+ console can be transplanted with a little work.
Cup holders are no biggie, the 97+ console can be transplanted with a little work.
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I have a 90. Whats wrong with a 90?!
I love this thing. It has 235k on it, less than your 99! I love the simplicity of the older ones. The 88-90s were the Renix years. Fuel injected, simple computer. No OBD, makes troubleshooting a little harder. BUT the computer is so simple, once you wrap your mind around it.
The 90 has minimal dumb **** to deal with. Classic style. Any of the short comings can be dealt with fairly simple. Nothing major. Closed loop can be changed to open loop with a radiator cap spliced into the upper radiator hose and a coolant overflow bottle. 20 minutes, tops.
I love this thing. It has 235k on it, less than your 99! I love the simplicity of the older ones. The 88-90s were the Renix years. Fuel injected, simple computer. No OBD, makes troubleshooting a little harder. BUT the computer is so simple, once you wrap your mind around it.
The 90 has minimal dumb **** to deal with. Classic style. Any of the short comings can be dealt with fairly simple. Nothing major. Closed loop can be changed to open loop with a radiator cap spliced into the upper radiator hose and a coolant overflow bottle. 20 minutes, tops.
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Just look for the XJ with the least rust underneath.
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The youngest XJs are now 16 years old. They're ALL going to have things break from age. There comes a point where a ten year difference in age may not make any difference. The condition will depend instead on how it was maintained, where it was driven, whether it was ever parked for a long period or continuously driven, etc. You will find older XJs that are in much better condition than newer ones.
Just look for the XJ with the least rust underneath.
Just look for the XJ with the least rust underneath.
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I have a 90. Whats wrong with a 90?!
I love this thing. It has 235k on it, less than your 99! I love the simplicity of the older ones. The 88-90s were the Renix years. Fuel injected, simple computer. No OBD, makes troubleshooting a little harder. BUT the computer is so simple, once you wrap your mind around it.
The 90 has minimal dumb **** to deal with. Classic style. Any of the short comings can be dealt with fairly simple. Nothing major. Closed loop can be changed to open loop with a radiator cap spliced into the upper radiator hose and a coolant overflow bottle. 20 minutes, tops.
I love this thing. It has 235k on it, less than your 99! I love the simplicity of the older ones. The 88-90s were the Renix years. Fuel injected, simple computer. No OBD, makes troubleshooting a little harder. BUT the computer is so simple, once you wrap your mind around it.
The 90 has minimal dumb **** to deal with. Classic style. Any of the short comings can be dealt with fairly simple. Nothing major. Closed loop can be changed to open loop with a radiator cap spliced into the upper radiator hose and a coolant overflow bottle. 20 minutes, tops.
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NOTHING wrong with older model Renix era XJs & MJs at all. The only reason people have problems with the closed cooling systems is they honestly don't know how to PROPERLY service the system, leaving air in the system, causing overheating.
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I have a 96 Country 4x4. Like the OP I love the older body style. I would like to have the older leather covered spoke steering wheel on the 94's and down. The airbag steering wheel is pretty ugly.
Actually, I'd absolutely love to have 88 Wagoneer or 90 Brierwood. I met a guy here in town that has a pristine 88 Wagoneer. Dark metallic silver with a Cordoba (cranberry) interior. Absolutely beautiful with the woody sides and chrome trim.
Actually, I'd absolutely love to have 88 Wagoneer or 90 Brierwood. I met a guy here in town that has a pristine 88 Wagoneer. Dark metallic silver with a Cordoba (cranberry) interior. Absolutely beautiful with the woody sides and chrome trim.
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