first off im not dissing grand cherokee's.....but my GF's brother has a bone stock 4x4 ZJ with street tires and i have a 4x4 xj with a 6.5 lift on 33" km2's...anyways he say that he can go anywhere & do anything i can and i told him he was freakin crazy what do yall think....sorry bout the pics not the best

i still think it can go through a lot being stock. maybe not as much as urs, but it can still go

I say agree with him and say come on and then have fun pulling him out and take lots of pics.

yea i tryed to get him to go the other day since we got some ran so me & my friends was going to play after work but he said that he (couldnt make it) bc he didnt fill like get out of the house lol plus my GF said that if he goes with me and he f*cks up his jeep that she would be mad at me WTF....oh and iv got some pic's of that day very fun

You definitely have the advantage, but it'll come down to driver.

Im with him. Mines stock and can go a lot of places it really shouldn't. With a little finesse and patience you can get where you need but in deep mud or water, the ***** in your court on that.

Im sure the op realizes stock jeeps can go places most think they cant...but im sure he's more talking about the comparison...stock with car tires vs 6" lift and 33" Mud terrains...now come on there is now way stock with car tires could go half as many places as 6" lift with 33" mud terrains.

No argument there. Hey OP care to clarify on this??

im not dissing yall with stock jeeps bc mine was stock at one time and yea i kn a stock jeep can go almost anywhere u please but these dude im talking about with the stock ZJ is just crazy he tried to fallow me cross a big ***** ditch at a angle bc he said he could go anywhere...but he didnt make it almost NO FLEX...i try all the time to help him out to get his jeep lifted on a buget

Stock ZJs flex amazingly well, the coil sprung rear helps a ton. If his sway bars were hooked up though that certainly would cause problems. I love my ZJ, and it sure as hell surprised me what it could do when I first started taking it out. But a stock ZJ on street tires is absolutely not gonna be able to keep up with your XJ.

this story brings back memories of my dad and one of his friends... funny

me: 99xj~
-2" BB
-235/75 wrangler dura tracs
-no front sway bar

my buddy: 03ish wragler
-6" lift
-33x12.50's (new this summer)
-arbs front and rear

this summer:
id say about 2 or 3 places where he could go and i couldnt. now, the tires and lift allow for a more direct line from A to B, while my line is far more ziggy-zaggy to maneuver the trail. BUT, if i was a rough on mine as he is on his, then id say that really only ONCE this summer, was he able to get up it and not me.... not that i didnt try... but those lockers really gave him the advantage... i just end up being slower over the terrain and with a lot more spinning than him.

so thats my .02 on the matter...

Haha so it sounds like the wrangler goes up the steep part over rocks and such to get to the top of the hill...and you go around the side where there is a clear path through the trees...pretty bad comparison i think

yea your rite a stock ZJ does have good flex alot better then a stock XJ... yea he does still have his rear sway bar on

I think he is trippin! And you have one sexy a$$ xj btw