Some of you know I've been invested in recreating the long-out-of-stock and even-longer-out-of-print decal for XJs and ZJs indicating you've got said package on our Jeep.



This thread won't detail the goings on of the production process, as opposed to the other one I started. This thread is simply to poll the users of the forum as to how they wish the decal to be applied to their XJ/ZJ

TL;DR
Vote on which sticker/adhesive type you'd like to see in a reproduction IF YOU WERE BUYING IT FOR YOUR OWN JEEP.

This is not an order confirmation, this is giving me a rough idea if there's any interest in the "modified adhesion" decals. For details, read on.

Also, if you just like the sticker and want it even though you don't have the package... I don't care, I just want numbers



Here's what I know about the OEM application of the decal:

1) Started with the '94 model XJ and (obviously) '93 ZJ models that had the Up Country Suspension Group package in the build order. '91-93 XJs had "off road vehicle package" decals with a separate p/n from the UCSG decal.

2) The DECAL BEING APPLIED on the XJ seems to have stopped in '99 or '99.5, although it's still listed in the parts catalogs for 99-01.

3) The WK never had this decal from the dealership.

4) The decal position was indicated in the parts catalogs as such:
ZJ


XJ (94-96)


XJ (98-99?)


As you can see, it's doesn't show a '97 XJ placement. In fact, the decal isn't even listed in the '97 parts catalog anywhere.

Now, there are other sources that throw some of this parts catalog officialness out the f'ing window:

You can see AllPar's caption: "1997 or 1998"

5) According to a reliable (read: dealer) source, the original decals were adhered to the glass thus:
Inside the car, on the window panels indicated above

6) They are much smaller than I imagined: 3.5625" x 2.5"



Now, I know for a fact there are some who would prefer to have as close to OEM as possible. This option will exist.

For those wishing for a more permanent form of adhesion, other options can be made available.

So in all, this is what the possibilities are looking like:

1) Exterior-applied, permanent adhesive vinyl (with 3-5 year UV protective coating)

2) Interior-applied, permanent adhesive vinyl (outward-facing: adhesive on the decal design side- no UV coating)

3) (OEM) Interior-applied, static cling vinyl (outward facing; no uv coating)


As you can tell, I'm all about the details with this. In the thread previously mentioned, I've done my best to ensure that this decal's design is as close to OEM as possible.

Once the decals are produced, I will make them available for much less than originals go for when they even show up on ebay. Once I get a rough idea of how many on here would want, I'll make an official and proper thread in the classifieds to distribute them along with a number. The general rule is: the more that get ordered, the cheaper they'd be to produce.

 

I vote #3 as my first choice. Would settle for choice #2. Personally have no interest in choice #1. But thinking you already knew that. LOL.

 

Yup

 

Voted. Exterior-applied for use with tinted windows.

 

Awesome, thanks!

I'm trying to find legit reasons to bump this thread so it gets the attention of the ones who don't normally vote.

 

I can probably BS enough about something in here to keep it toward the top. LOL

 

spinning of the escort story
I'm amazed at how few 80s and '90s regular cars are left around anymore. Even before I discovered the youtube channel of the same name, I was pretty enthused with the thoroughly mundane cars that got us through various generations of adolescence.

My first choice was actually a Tempo/Topaz. When I couldn't find those I tried to snag a k car. No luck. So the Escort appeared with some minor front end and hood damage— with incredibly low miles I snatched it up for about $600, found a hood, headlight, and latch at the pull'n'save, and it was on the road.

I drove it for a few months before the timing belt snapped. Thankfully those 1.9s were non interference. Got a new pump and belt installed and the thing ran better— I suspect the timing was off a tooth or just wasn't set right, because the difference was night and day.

In the meantime the wife insisted I get a "reliable and newer" car, so that's when the Focus came into view. Sold the escort for about $1,400, so it wasn't a terrible flip.

The escort was repainted white. Originally a maroon on maroon/red interior that reminded my of my grandmother's old K Dynasty. The interior was in great shape

That car had some great quirks. That temp gauge didn't lie! Anything between the extra wide "NORMAL" bracket was indeed normal—I was getting nervous that it kept climbing. Didn't go in the red, but damn that was nerve-racking. Found some near-perfect wheel covers after that, and off it went to a college student.


Back on the UCSG topic though— I wonder how many I should print…

For the OEM static cling versions, 20–80 is about going to cost me the same amount, so I'll probably end up doing 80 of them.

The permanent adhesive ones are basically the same amount, front or back. I'm probably going to do 20 of the outside and 40 of the inside… unless I'm convinced otherwise.

 

minor bump to facilitate voting opportunities


The first car I ever drove (in a parking lot): '68 Beetle Wolfsburg Autostick

WoooooOOOO three speeds. It was my sisters' car that eventually died of points ignition a couple other issues.

Broken into more times than I can count. Surprisingly the AM/FM Tape deck unit was never swiped… just the extra fuses, spare change, and a couple tapes.

It was dark blue with a light blue driver's-side fender.

So many memories. It was 1993, grunge rock, and everything Washington state had to offer at the time was part of that card. Magic: The Gathering was first purchased from the games store, Uncle's; the drive was purposeful.

Man those heater levers was all the shielding we had for the winter time.

 

Mine was a 1978 LTD w/351M. On the farm. I guess that was around 1985.

I still drive a 3 speed manual, in my '67 Bronco. It was on the tree and I relocated it to the floor. It's about as simple as a vehicle can get--manual choke, manual 4-wheel drum brakes, manual steering, etc. The only "modern" upgrade is a Uni-Lite distributor, if you can call that modern.

 

Mine was '65 Pontiac Lemans 2 dr. Had a straight six and 2 speed slip and slide.

 

VOTE. PLEASE VOTE.

Only have 4 voters as of this post. There! Up above, at the top of the thread, there's a poll! Vote! Please!



The first car I ever owned (title and all) was a '94 4Runner.
Leather. I don't get leather interiors. It's soft, sure, it dampens noise, sure. But when my dad owned it, it just seemed like a thing you had to keep nice at all costs and no mercy for any damage… even when you are getting yelled at by your sister to get out and get your big *** baritone case out of the back seat, because they wouldn't roll down the back window so you could put it in the cloth cargo area. And in the flurry of "GET OUT I'VE GOT TO GO!" you put an inch-long scrape in the leather seat and later that night you get chewed out for an eternity over something so stupid. I've never liked leather. it's hot and sticky, or cold and penetrating (that's what she said).

Anyway, when I owned it I was only barely getting into DIY car repairs, so the most I'd ever done was unsuccessfully cleaning the EGR valve, because OBD-I and that was probably the thing you need to fix. Hopefully.

Loved to pop out of 5th gear and never liked being in 4WD. The 3VZE was always weighed down and sluggish. But it was more capable than any of my roommates' subies. Had to rescue him a number of times…

 

I agree with you about the leather, for all the reasons you mention. I've compared leather vs. cloth in all of the used vehicles I've shopped for, and the cloth nearly 100% of the time was in better shape, all other wear/mileage equal. I've never owned a vehicle with leather, and likely never will. However, I'm not real happy with Chrysler's decision to put crappy vinyl outside bottoms of the cloth XJ front seats...

The first car I owned was an '83 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. It was a fun car, had a lot of miles on it, and unfortunately I knew little about how to take care of it at that time. The few times I took it to have an oil change they put the wrong oil in it (not realizing it was a 4-cyl turbo), and once they forgot to put the LSD additive in the 8.8, etc. I got fed up with that real quick and out of necessity I bought the shop manuals and started learning maintenance and repair in earnest because I was too particular to trust anyone else to do it, just as I am today.

 

I also agree on the leather seats. But I wanted removable headrest seats. In my travels I have never come across cloth ones. But did find 2 sets of leather ones in so so condition. So leather it was.

 

DAILY BUMP TO REMIND YOU TO VOTE!


Second car I ever owned was a '92 Honda Civic EX 4dr. that had the 1st gen, non-branded 1.6L D16Z6 vtech.

Mom bought it after our former-rental-car-purchase Chevy Celebrity got totaled—never the the aftermath of that one. At this point, none of our cars were automatics, and made it irksome for my older siblings not being able to get around, and then for me 6 years later while learning to drive on it.

The speedometer was never correct. The cruise control wouldn't hold unless you gently held the throttle down until it grabbed. The hood was replaced twice, the trunk/rear quarters rebuilt after a negligent garbage truck driver decided it was a dumpster. Melted/mated a couple of spark plug boots. Had to replace the petulant master relay. Needed a good smog tech to warm it up so it would actually pass. Exhaust line split during a long road trip, which got a tomato paste can fix. Replaced the Vtech solenoid. Took it to get an alignment more times than I care to think about. And the worst part was the ****ing distributor, which was replaced 4 times during my driver-/ownership. That's what you get for early adoption of vtech, I guess.

 

Wow. I thought Honda Civics are "reliable". lol

My second was a 1993 Probe GT. Another fun car. That 2.5L Mazda V6 was like a sewing machine--smooth all the way to 7K.