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BeaglesXJ 10-17-2011 02:05 PM

I put her in 4x4 only when I cant move anymore. And lets put it this way, I didnt even put it 4x4 last year. And we got 10 inches dumped on us over night and 3 days later got another 7 inches. I look forward to winter every year cus thats when the tow strap comes out and my bank account gets a little bigger from idiots getting stuck in ditches.

Greenfishinkayak 10-17-2011 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee

I was in PR getting married the one time we got a massive storm. It wasn't cool.

No.

Oh I forgot you are a Fellow cheesehead :) lol it was fun! I didn't have my jeep running yet though :( my dad and I went into town so we could get some work done on making my heep functional after the po destroyed a deer with it. We took his ram 1500 with the hemi and a 6" lift sooo many people in ditches that had no clue but they all are dumb enough to call a wrecker and pay $$$$ I should stop postwhoring :)

MUDRUNNER AZ 10-17-2011 03:18 PM

We dont get much snow around here either. The bridges freeze over but hardly any snow. If and when we do or have gotten it i have not had to but it in 4wd to get around town or to work. But i do hit all the place my friends work and do donuts in the new snow before they get there. I do use 4wd when we hit the trails in the mountains around here with snow. (some long drops in them thar hills). I hope we get a pile of snow this year.

77olds 10-17-2011 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by ivantheigor (Post 1261992)
If youre referring to ABS brakes the previous owner did you a favor. I refuse to drive a car in the snow equipped with ABS.

You don't like being able to steer while braking during traction loss?

Gee oh Dee 10-17-2011 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by 77olds (Post 1262966)
You don't like being able to steer while braking during traction loss?

If you knew how to drive that wouldn't be an issue. I also hate ABS, and I can still steer.

I like stopping when I tell my truck to do so. Not when the ABS motor thinks it should.

ABS is nice only if you don't know how to drive.

carpathia 10-17-2011 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by ivantheigor (Post 1261992)
Put more weight in the back.. a tote full of sand is good. Plus it will also be great if you get stuck in snow. Also drive slower.


The 4wd setting is not made for on pavement use...


And youre wearing your tires quicker.... and your sacrificing handling. Dont do this.


If youre referring to ABS brakes the previous owner did you a favor. I refuse to drive a car in the snow equipped with ABS.

I hate my tires and handling? who needs handling, put some fun in life...but being serious im not putting 50 inthe rear and 60 in the front come on I know better than that been doing this for years and had no problems with handling handles quiet well no drifting to different lanes etc

Gee oh Dee 10-17-2011 04:17 PM

I don't do what you explained. I dont drift unless I want to. :dunno:

CherokeeChick 10-17-2011 08:53 PM

Driving in snow is lots of fun! Honestly anything with a descent ate of tires and 4x4 is great. I used to plow though snow banks with my winstar lol anything that has a descent amount of weight behind it is good enough honestly. I almost got stuck in it a couple of times but I knew how to drive out of sticky situations mud and snow land kinda does that to ya. The only time I put my jeep in four wheel drive inthe winter is if there has been a huge dumping and the plows haven't been buy yet other then that it's only when I decide to do things like drive down the entire length of my suburban residential street in the snow bank lol. ( yes I am that asshole!)

2KXJJEEP 10-17-2011 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by gee oh dee (Post 1262657)
snow is a blast. I look forward to it every year.

hell yeah me to!!!!!!!

ivantheigor 10-18-2011 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by Agent_Oragnge (Post 1262357)
if you don't drive in the snow often go to a parking lot (empty) and do some donuts. lean how your rig is going to handle/spin out/slip at what speed and what range of turning. plus it's fun as H E double hockey sticks

Yes... also visit a lake. Ice is even more fun.
Side note campus police dont find it amusing. I suggest travelling off campus if it applies.


Originally Posted by BigBear (Post 1262514)
Before you even comment on other peoples comments you should read the post first, he was in snow not dry pavement.

I did read it.
The way I read it there are only a couple of inches pf snow on the ground on top of pavement. Not the time to be using the part time 4HI. Unless he has full time or the conditions are different I hold to my statement.


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1262993)
If you knew how to drive that wouldn't be an issue. I also hate ABS, and I can still steer.

I like stopping when I tell my truck to do so. Not when the ABS motor thinks it should.

ABS is nice only if you don't know how to drive.

This is everything I wanted to say. Thank you.


Originally Posted by carpathia (Post 1263032)
I hate my tires and handling? who needs handling, put some fun in life...but being serious im not putting 50 inthe rear and 60 in the front come on I know better than that been doing this for years and had no problems with handling handles quiet well no drifting to different lanes etc

You will lose some tire life. And it MAY cause some uneven wear. Just a couple psi can change your contact area.
And I wasnt thinking you were running ungodly PSI's... my damn tone doesnt seem to traverse the interweb too well. My bad.

To all:
Snow is fun. Have some fun, but not at other peoples risk. Play in feilds, play in lots, play on lakes, but please dont play on roads.

Now that safety has been boringly injected into this thread, lets see some powder flying!
:worthless:

bigvig 10-18-2011 09:50 AM

Been driving in Maine snow for 28 years (yes, actually driving the vehicle). Only state that gets as much as us for as long is probably Alaska. I loath the thought of a day in Maine snow without my XJ. It is the absolute BEST handling vehicle in snow that Ive ever driven or riden in. I use my part time 4 wheel all the time in the winter. Matter of fact, I keep it engaged when Im home because our roads are never clean.

If youre spinning out in snow, ice, rain, etc., its not the vehicle (ESPECIALLY an XJ) its the driver. You were going too fast, hit the gas too hard, etc. My XJ has NEVER caused me to get into a spin, on the contrary, its helped me avoid them many times. I know exactly how she handles and responds, and winter driving for me is like summer driving for most. But when you drive in snow for 5-7 months a year, you get used to it I guess.

There is NO front wheel drive vehicle that can keep up with me in rain, ice or snow when I have my 4 wheel engaged. NONE!

Gee oh Dee 10-18-2011 09:56 AM

^^

:bs:

jomps 10-18-2011 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by bigvig
Been driving in Maine snow for 28 years (yes, actually driving the vehicle). Only state that gets as much as us for as long is probably Alaska. I loath the thought of a day in Maine snow without my XJ. It is the absolute BEST handling vehicle in snow that Ive ever driven or riden in. I use my part time 4 wheel all the time in the winter. Matter of fact, I keep it engaged when Im home because our roads are never clean.

If youre spinning out in snow, ice, rain, etc., its not the vehicle (ESPECIALLY an XJ) its the driver. You were going too fast, hit the gas too hard, etc. My XJ has NEVER caused me to get into a spin, on the contrary, its helped me avoid them many times. I know exactly how she handles and responds, and winter driving for me is like summer driving for most. But when you drive in snow for 5-7 months a year, you get used to it I guess.

There is NO front wheel drive vehicle that can keep up with me in rain, ice or snow when I have my 4 wheel engaged. NONE!

so you got wheels with the metal points for ice? cause 4wd doesnt do anything for ice unless there is snow on top to grip too...

bigvig 10-18-2011 10:59 AM

First, ice here is rare. We dont really get much ice. The ice we have is melting snow that freezes up. So most of the roads I drive have a hard pack of snow on top of ice. If you gun it, or hit a rut, etc., youre going to be on ice.

Second, for when we actually get a real ice storm, I dont go out. BUT, I have chains in case of an emergency. Ive NEVER had to put my chains on. However, if youve ever seen American Loggers on Discovery, thats where I live and drive daily. That logging road is solid ice all winter long, and as long as youre driving reasonable there arent many problems. MANY vehicles use that road all winter and sure, there are a few that go off the road, but driving smart will save your rear. Doing 45 around a corner isnt smart.

Sure, you can find black ice on the highway, etc., and nobody is going to be able to avoid an accident in that stuff, especially if youre not planning for it. When that time of year starts to roll around (right now actually) and Im on the highway at night, I pay a LOT more attention when Im crossing bridges or driving in well shaded areas. Ive hit black ice twice in my life: Both times I was going slow and watching for it and I barely wiggled my vehicle.

Again, I have yet to drive a vehicle that handles as well as my Jeep does in inclement weather. Im not saying its the end-all and be-all to poor weather vehicles, but for my money and what Ive driven, including numerous 4x4's and AWD's, nothing beats it. And again, I also know my Jeep well. I know how it handles and I know how to drive it. We have snow here from at LEAST November until April, every year. Most know how to drive in it. That makes a HUGE difference. We dont shut down our state because of 4 inches. Thats just a dusting.

Gee oh Dee 10-18-2011 11:02 AM

I just find it hard to believe there are no FWD cars that can "keep up with you" in poor weather conditions.

That's a rather bold statement. Sounds like a challenge. :D

bigvig 10-18-2011 11:30 AM

Yeah, it is. And its probably not true, but thats how I feel because my XJ handles so well in crap weather. It wasnt so much a statement of fact, but a matter of opinion.

Mihogan 10-18-2011 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Agent_Oragnge (Post 1262357)
if you don't drive in the snow often go to a parking lot (empty) and do some donuts. lean how your rig is going to handle/spin out/slip at what speed and what range of turning. plus it's fun as H E double hockey sticks

I used to LOVE doing this - able to have fun in a safe environment and learn how to drive in the snow and how your own vehicle handles... until a cop drove by a lot one night and flipped **** on my friend and I. As we explained we were simply practicing snow driving, he told us that was "bull****" and that we needed to "stop being assholes". Don't get me wrong, I know there are good cops out there, but it seems for every good one there are 10 bad ones, and I always run into the latter...

andyg 10-18-2011 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1262993)
I like stopping when I tell my truck to do so. Not when the ABS motor thinks it should.

X2. I would pull the ABS fuse in my van during snow as I could stop the thing much better than the abs ever could.

I also drove the gto for a couple weeks last february, that thing was a handful. A few inches of snow, summer only tires, and Pontiac torque with a manual trans were quite a chore to get moving.:laughing:

xj wheeler 10-18-2011 12:02 PM

Who knew there was so much to say about snow. Haha

Greenfishinkayak 10-18-2011 01:31 PM

When we had a 20" snowfall last year they didn't close the schools! I had to ride the bus because all I had was a 95 Chrysler Sebring with mismatched summer tires and the snow was over my hood. That driver had absolutely NO common sense in snow... If it started spinning the tires she hit the gas harder

ms_chevis 10-18-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Greenfishinkayak (Post 1265062)
When we had a 20" snowfall last year they didn't close the schools! I had to ride the bus because all I had was a 95 Chrysler Sebring with mismatched summer tires and the snow was over my hood. That driver had absolutely NO common sense in snow... If it started spinning the tires she hit the gas harder


what do you mean? that makes sense.... aint moving... give it more gas lol:devil:

The Blacksmith 10-18-2011 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1262657)
Snow is a blast. I look forward to it every year.

:thumbsup:

Greenfishinkayak 10-18-2011 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by ms_chevis

what do you mean? that makes sense.... aint moving... give it more gas lol:devil:

She also did it going around corners... Not to mention how she always waited till the last moment to start slowing down on blacktop, then uses the same stopping points in the winter.

turbo laser 10-18-2011 10:18 PM

I'm thinking the first winter with the XJ should be pretty fun. Fully undercoated it today.

Jeepjunky 10-18-2011 10:26 PM

this thread just makes me hate myself for the fact that i am rarely guna drive my xj in snow this year, to help save the body from rust, and save money

jomps 10-18-2011 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by turbo laser
I'm thinking the first winter with the XJ should be pretty fun. Fully undercoated it today.

i need to do this....hate salt

Jeepjunky 10-18-2011 10:34 PM

^^ same, just need to get all the floor boards, rockers and fenders replaced first lol

jomps 10-18-2011 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jeepjunky
^^ same, just need to get all the floor boards, rockers and fenders replaced first lol

im not that far, and not trying to be!

Jeepjunky 10-18-2011 10:42 PM

u dont wanna be, thinkin for the rockers that im just guna cut them off and and replace it with a capped 2x6x0.25 wall steel rock gaurd

jomps 10-18-2011 10:46 PM

my fiances wj same story....slider time/future project

ivantheigor 10-18-2011 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by bigvig (Post 1264858)
Ive hit black ice twice in my life: Both times I was going slow and watching for it and I barely wiggled my vehicle.

Snow is fun on and off the road. Ice is fun off the road.

I have hit black ice once... I was driving the Old Geo Tracker. It was one of the most stressful events in my life.

ivantheigor 10-18-2011 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by jomps (Post 1266178)
i need to do this....hate salt

Youre lucky its rock salt.
Just hope they dont start using calcium chloride.

jomps 10-18-2011 10:52 PM

working at a ski resort, i have seen alot of vehicles flipped in ditches...scary...

Greenfishinkayak 10-19-2011 07:50 AM

Thay use this liquid crap around here that actually dissolves the concrete curbs if it touches it directly :(

jomps 10-19-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Greenfishinkayak
Thay use this liquid crap around here that actually dissolves the concrete curbs if it touches it directly :(

salt does too if too much is used....once i decided to spray water over the driveway so i could play "ice hockey" and dad put down alot of salt which dissolved and ruined that part of the drive: not good

Gee oh Dee 10-19-2011 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Jeepjunky (Post 1266200)
^^ same, just need to get all the floor boards, rockers and fenders replaced first lol

I could help...

mrfajita 10-19-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Greenfishinkayak (Post 1266838)
Thay use this liquid crap around here that actually dissolves the concrete curbs if it touches it directly :(

Magnesium Chloride. That stuff eats aluminum like a fat cop eats donuts.

Jmb94 10-19-2011 12:30 PM

Nobody answered the OP!

I guess I will, and as a Journalist, I guess I have to answer with a question:

If you live in Alaska, WHY WOULD YOU BUY A 2WD XJ!?

Jeepjunky 10-19-2011 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee (Post 1266980)
I could help...


lol i know u could...wouldnt be a bad idea actually

xjbirby 12-03-2012 05:30 PM

Winter Upgrades
 
Bottom line: I've just gotten orders for Alaska. Need to know what (if any) upgrades I need to make to the XJ for the big move and a few years living in Alaska.
I have a 2000 XJ, 3.5" Rubicon Express lift with BF Goodrich A/T 31" x 10". The tires are nearing replacement and will likely do so once I make up it there (want to shave the fenders first to fit some bigger tires on there). Have Banks headers, magnaflow cat, and Aero Turbine exhaust.
I cracked a head earlier this year and had it replaced. Also replaced the water pump and radiator.
I'm definitely getting the engine warmer put on, but looking for any other advice to keep the Jeep on the up and up for everyday driving.


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