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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Just because its cheap dosent mean its going to fail. I got my jeep for $200 and that was cheap and it hasn't failed me yet. If I can get a supercharger for $150 a set of ford Blue Stick injectors $50, wide-band o2 sensors or something to modify them $?, 5lb pulley (stock pulley on supercharger) $0 a longer belt $50 and a place to mount the SC $100 (Where the AC pump is or on the intake itself) and possibly a tuner for fuel $300? I'm not seeing the problem with being cheap and doing it right.


I'm waiting. But not gonna hold my breath.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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We l so happen to have 2 of these chargers .... Left overs if you will from my GTP .... so if you figure it out I may do this also

Also from my experience is something called Knock or Knock Retard on the GTP's. Essentially on a the Distributorless 3800 the ECM will advance the timing to remove any knock.. and if you get too many degrees of knock you will have major engine problems (major thing you have to scan for with pulley drops) .... I know some of the newer L6's on the jeeps are distributorless and if they work similar with KR as the 3800 then you could have a major issue.

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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee


I'm waiting. But not gonna hold my breath.
Glad to know I have your attention.


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We l so happen to have 2 of these chargers .... Left overs if you will from my GTP .... so if you figure it out I may do this also

Also from my experience is something called Knock or Knock Retard on the GTP's. Essentially on a the Distributorless 3800 the ECM will advance the timing to remove any knock.. and if you get too many degrees of knock you will have major engine problems (major thing you have to scan for with pulley drops) .... I know some of the newer L6's on the jeeps are distributorless and if they work similar with KR as the 3800 then you could have a major issue.
Good to know, thanks for sharing the information, My jeep is a 98 so It does still have the distributor. That being so I wouldnt need to do much other then possibly upgrade the coil on the ignition side, re-gap the plugs and re-time the engine? I'm currently at a college that has a class that specializes in this and may be contacting the teacher If I find time between everything going on. I'm just trying to find as much information as possible, because like I said, If I can do it for $750 or less itd almost be a definite project.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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I can buy alot of stuff for $750.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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I can buy alot of stuff for $750.
So can I, I dont see where your going with this.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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That your gains aren't worth the work. And I still don't believe it will happen.

Anyone who can do this easilydoeant need to ask about it.

I am on here all the time. I will see if this works out or crashes and burns.

Got a time frame for this project? Gonna see some progress by Christmas...or....?
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
That your gains aren't worth the work. And I still don't believe it will happen.

Anyone who can do this easilydoeant need to ask about it.

I am on here all the time. I will see if this works out or crashes and burns.

Got a time frame for this project? Gonna see some progress by Christmas...or....?
Like I said two posts ago, After I have figured out everything I need to get/do I will be figuring the cost. As long as its $750 or under then it will be a project. If not then I will drop it and put the money towards something else. I have no set date on it yet. If you're looking to give me a hard time over this then by all means un-subscribe and stop posting if you have no information to give of any value. Stop wasting my time and your own.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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I think he has given some information of value... he's advised against it because the reward isn't going to be worth the work.

But, i'm intriqued to see if it will.... So, subscribed.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by XxXJ99xX
Like I said two posts ago, After I have figured out everything I need to get/do I will be figuring the cost. As long as its $750 or under then it will be a project. If not then I will drop it and put the money towards something else. I have no set date on it yet. If you're looking to give me a hard time over this then by all means un-subscribe and stop posting if you have no information to give of any value. Stop wasting my time and your own.
I'm really not wasting our time. I'm trying to get you to realize since your constantly using the word 'cheap' your wasting your own time.

I wish anyone doing something 'outside the box' the best of luck. The thing is, most folks dreaming up these ideas aren't gonna come close, let alone finish the project. And someone that keeps using the word cheap really has odds stacked against them.

There is a reason the 4.0s aren't boosted left and right. Cuz its not really "THAT EASY." Its just not.

And for those who can do it EASILY don't typically have to ask questions.

Bit, again, GOOD LUCK. Prove me wrong. Please. Then post here all about it.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
I'm really not wasting our time. I'm trying to get you to realize since your constantly using the word 'cheap' your wasting your own time.

I wish anyone doing something 'outside the box' the best of luck. The thing is, most folks dreaming up these ideas aren't gonna come close, let alone finish the project. And someone that keeps using the word cheap really has odds stacked against them.

There is a reason the 4.0s aren't boosted left and right. Cuz its not really "THAT EASY." Its just not.

And for those who can do it EASILY don't typically have to ask questions.

Bit, again, GOOD LUCK. Prove me wrong. Please. Then post here all about it.
I dont see the problem in just trying to gain information. And as I said If I can find everything I need to do it and do it properly within my price range then I have no problem in doing it. If I cant then I wont. Like I said earlier, I'm not trying to act like someone who thinks you can just slap together a turbo set up or stroke a 4.0 cheap and get away with it while being reliable. I'm asking feasible questions and trying to figure out more about it. If there's a problem in that then I dont know what your problem is.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 03:36 AM
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i've been thinking of adding forced induction to my xj as well, but i'm planning on going with the rick rimmer kit. Its expensive but includes everything. It's a supercharger which is what i wanted for off road. I just need to get everything straight with my stroker build to make sure i don't run into too much compression and have to run some sort of alcohol or methanol injection, or just blow up about 6 grand in fancy engine parts and labor. I wish you luck with your build, but you may want to read up on forced induction if you have not already. If you can do this easily and cheaply, i know a few other jeepers in my area that would be interested.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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I have yet to see anybody on this forum successfully do this unless I missed it somewhere.. but usually these kind of threads derail for some reason.
But do what you said your gonna do and show us the numbers when its done.

I'm really interested.

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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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I was thinking about this thead while I was working on my Cobra this Morning. The Idea of a supercharger is great ,but I know my Eaton M112 gets heat soaked quick. Maybe a centrifical supercharger would be a better choice than a roots style. Just a thought.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Figured I'd jump in on this thread and throw in my .02...

You need re-gapped sparkplugs that are 1 temp range cooler than your stock ones.

Strapping a supercharger onto a Cherokee is EASY (installed mine with my dad over a period of 2 days (about 3-5 hours working each day and taking breaks to go on parts runs)). The hard part is tuning the darn thing. (I pretty much have it figured out for mine).

I see no problem with going with a "cheap" hardware set-up. Just make sure the supercharger is in good condition (take it apart and rebuild it).

Umm... I think that's about it for my random rambling. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

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I have yet to see anybody on this forum successfully do this unless I missed it somewhere.. but usually these kind of threads derail for some reason.
But do what you said your gonna do and show us the numbers when its done.

I'm really interested.

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<<<< This guy. I'm in the final stages of my install (on the electronics/tuning stage) and so far it's going swimmingly.

Originally Posted by Evil Bender
I was thinking about this thead while I was working on my Cobra this Morning. The Idea of a supercharger is great ,but I know my Eaton M112 gets heat soaked quick. Maybe a centrifical supercharger would be a better choice than a roots style. Just a thought.
Centrifugal still cranks up the heat (my dad and I put a powerdyne on his 4.6 f150 a while back). And here's my other beef with centrifugal superchargers... They build boost with RPM (his truck is at 2.5psi by 3k rpm and 7psi by 5k rpm). The 4.0 I6 is better suited to a twin screw supercharger IMHO because the boost is pretty much instant when you mash the go pedal.

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nothing to tune, at 5psi there's not enough boost to need a tune from what i've heard from my import friends
^^Dude. You need a tune no mater what boost level you're running. Lean AFRs are bad juju for engines.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Did you see the date of the last post?
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