Cherokee Chat General non-tech Cherokee chat
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ

Jeep almost stolen last night...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 11:57 AM
  #16  
95Cherokee's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 3
From: Houston Tx.
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

They just left it in the middle of the street like that? and what do you mean by "There's no way to start the rig".
Here in Texas you can shoot and kill someone if they're tampering with your vehicle without fear of charges being filed on you.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 03:24 PM
  #17  
gearheadette's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,025
Likes: 0
From: Palestine, TX
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by 95Cherokee
They just left it in the middle of the street like that? and what do you mean by "There's no way to start the rig".
Here in Texas you can shoot and kill someone if they're tampering with your vehicle without fear of charges being filed on you.

I didnt want to say that on here, but that is the law in Phoenix as well, but they must be on your property.

But in phoenix, if you shoot them and dont kill them, they can sue you, even though they were stealing from you. It happend to an old lady that beat a intruder with a kitchen pan. (in Phoenix)

BTW I lived there for 2 years

Last edited by gearheadette; Jan 1, 2010 at 03:26 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:14 PM
  #18  
ZachsXJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,145
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by gearheadette
I didnt want to say that on here, but that is the law in Phoenix as well, but they must be on your property.

But in phoenix, if you shoot them and dont kill them, they can sue you, even though they were stealing from you. It happend to an old lady that beat a intruder with a kitchen pan. (in Phoenix)

BTW I lived there for 2 years
I guess that means you better make sure you shoot them dead
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:18 PM
  #19  
dodge007's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 844
Likes: 0
From: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
I guess that means you better make sure you shoot them dead
Yeah sounds like in Phoenix they really want to get rid of their criminals, in Canada we can't even chase them off our property without them suing us, we almost have to leave the doors unlocked and our most valuable possessions right next to the door so its easier for thieves
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:26 PM
  #20  
ZachsXJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,145
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dodge007
Yeah sounds like in Phoenix they really want to get rid of their criminals, in Canada we can't even chase them off our property without them suing us, we almost have to leave the doors unlocked and our most valuable possessions right next to the door so its easier for thieves
I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing ever. Since when has it been common practice to reward thieves for breaking the law? In my opinion if you get shot, or otherwise injured while breaking the law you should automatically be barred from seeking damages, aaand be required to pay back any damage you did at least twice over.

I don't care what the law says in this aspect, stuff I don't care about but if you break into my house(therefore threatening my family's safety) I will kill you and not feel bad about it.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:33 PM
  #21  
dodge007's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 844
Likes: 0
From: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
I'm sorry but that is the stupidest thing ever. Since when has it been common practice to reward thieves for breaking the law? In my opinion if you get shot, or otherwise injured while breaking the law you should automatically be barred from seeking damages, aaand be required to pay back any damage you did at least twice over.

I don't care what the law says in this aspect, stuff I don't care about but if you break into my house(therefore threatening my family's safety) I will kill you and not feel bad about it.
Ok maybe I exaggerated a little, but it is almost that bad around here, we are not really allowed to have weapons unless there registered and all kinds of other crap, thieves can get away with an awful lot around here
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:41 PM
  #22  
ZachsXJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,145
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dodge007
Ok maybe I exaggerated a little, but it is almost that bad around here, we are not really allowed to have weapons unless there registered and all kinds of other crap, thieves can get away with an awful lot around here
Socialism, F*cking up the way things should be since 1848
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:52 PM
  #23  
dodge007's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 844
Likes: 0
From: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by ZachsXJ
Socialism, F*cking up the way things should be since 1848
Hear Hear
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:01 PM
  #24  
guest03's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 306
Likes: 0
Default

too bad you dont have an older one. my push handles are a ***** haha theyd give up
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2010 | 01:26 AM
  #25  
djlarroc's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,071
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Sorry to read about this Mike. Glad they didn't make off w/your rig. Time to install a kill switch or two.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2010 | 11:36 AM
  #26  
Mike H.'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 680
Likes: 2
From: Phoenix AZ
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6ho
Default

the rig is equiped with kill switches, has been since we moved to Phoenix (10 years ago) from Canada.
I'm not going to get into the shooting thing other than to say that in AZ you must be in a life threatening situation to be justified in shooting someone... however, you are still open to civil suits, which will likely destroy you financially.
The end all, unless your life, or the lives of others are threatened, keep your firearm out of the picture.


With that out of the way...
The day this happened, I got 2 window regulators replaced, a door lock replaced, and a fancy alarm system installed.
I then dug my 12ga out, loaded it and stood it beside the nightstand (along with the .40 auto that is always on duty... and 9mm on my wife's nightstand) in case they decide to come into the house...
The house if fully alarmed, always has been.

Last edited by Mike H.; Jan 2, 2010 at 11:51 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2010 | 12:24 PM
  #27  
DCM's Avatar
DCM
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Eastpointe, Mi
Model: Cherokee
Default

That looks like a really nice neighborhood too
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2010 | 12:39 PM
  #28  
ZachsXJ's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,145
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by DCM
That looks like a really nice neighborhood too
That doesn't mean a thing. Honestly in a nice neighborhood you're more likely to have criminals "handle surfing" and such b/c there's a better chance of finding stuff worth stealing. There's a guy in Cali who during a snowstorm drove his 4runner to work at a hospital. Thing was gorgeous, and probably worth at least $10k or more and someone stole it from the parking lot while he was working.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f34/st...-runner-31754/
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:33 AM
  #29  
95Cherokee's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,203
Likes: 3
From: Houston Tx.
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Mike H.
however, you are still open to civil suits, which will likely destroy you financially.
That's why you always shoot to kill.

And if someone breaks into your house, forget about those two little pop guns and use the 12 gauge.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:08 AM
  #30  
Mike H.'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 680
Likes: 2
From: Phoenix AZ
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6ho
Default

Originally Posted by 95Cherokee
That's why you always shoot to kill.

And if someone breaks into your house, forget about those two little pop guns and use the 12 gauge.
civil suits from family members... is what I was getting at.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 PM.