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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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I got my brother to send me some pics of the jack stands my grandfather made. I was mistaken about the source; they were from Model T axles. When you get used to using these, stamped metal jack stands just seem... wrong.

The chain shown there is supposed to have a fat steel pin on the end of it that goes in the holes in the shaft. I hope it hasn't been lost.










Here's a pic of a Model T axle from the Don Garlitz Museum for comparison.
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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Heavy duty for sure.
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even with stands one must consider the surface on which they rest. hot pavement, gravel etc require extra attention.

a friend of mine was crushed under a mustang while doing a clutch swap by himself. had stands, but they were on asphalt. gradually sunk in until it pinned him under the car. by the time he noticed something was awry he was trapped. very sad story, heavily impacted many of us. great guy, very able and experienced mechanically, not his first rodeo. simple oversight.

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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
stamped metal jack stands just seem... wrong.
They are and plastic ramps fail.

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A pair of stands and that jack will cost about $800, you can't find an ambulance ride that cheap...

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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
I got my brother to send me some pics of the jack stands my grandfather made. I was mistaken about the source; they were from Model T axles. When you get used to using these, stamped metal jack stands just seem... wrong.

The chain shown there is supposed to have a fat steel pin on the end of it that goes in the holes in the shaft. I hope it hasn't been lost.










Here's a pic of a Model T axle from the Don Garlitz Museum for comparison.
Functional and badass looking.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
When you get used to using these, stamped metal jack stands just seem... wrong.
Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
They are and plastic ramps fail.

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A pair of stands and that jack will cost about $800, you can't find an ambulance ride that cheap...
Those are stamped steel. That's what I was talking about feeling wrong. I grew up not feeling like it was right unless I strained something moving the jack stands under the car.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
Those are stamped steel. That's what I was talking about feeling wrong. I grew up not feeling like it was right unless I strained something moving the jack stands under the car.
"These" are made in USA, capacity is 6 tons each, max height 25". Your more than welcome to use that antique but I'm not risking my life or livelihood on it.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
They are and plastic ramps fail.

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A pair of stands and that jack will cost about $800, you can't find an ambulance ride that cheap...

Holy smokes $800?? Harbor freight gets a bad rap but their jacks are some good stuff. Can get a nice one for less than $100. Even less with a coupon. Jack stands shouldn't cost the remainder $700 haha
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
"These" are made in USA, capacity is 6 tons each, max height 25". Your more than welcome to use that antique but I'm not risking my life or livelihood on it.
I'm using stamped steel jack stands. They're probably all just fine.

They just don't feel like it compared to heavy steel.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
Holy smokes $800?? Harbor freight gets a bad rap but their jacks are some good stuff. Can get a nice one for less than $100. Even less with a coupon. Jack stands shouldn't cost the remainder $700 haha
x2 I have had a set of 6 ton jack stands and a 3 ton floor jack from Harbor Freight that I got about three years ago and they haven't failed me yet, and I have used them many times on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I also have their 4 ton floor jack and and a couple pairs of the 3 ton jack stands, no problems with those either. I don't really trust the aluminum ones they have but I know the steel ones work great.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
"These" are made in USA, capacity is 6 tons each, max height 25". Your more than welcome to use that antique but I'm not risking my life or livelihood on it.
i like the antiques, they look pretty stout, i'd have no problem shoving them under my truck and working on it. I wish my rig was as well built, I'm getting by with craftsman 3 ton jack, came with two pressed steel 3 ton stands, a pair of plastic ramps, and harbor freight 6 ton stands. And yes, i always put a wheel under the vehicle, and often put a 4x4 i have across it too.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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I have about 5 pairs of jackstands. i think only one pair isnt harbor freight. I also have 3 jacks. one older craftsman and 2 harbor freight. I never get under a vehicle with just a jack holding it up. most of the time if I am going to be under a vehicle it gets 2 pairs of jackstands plus the jack left in place where I jacked it up at(if it wont be in the way).

No less than 2 stand stands. ever.
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Originally Posted by TrailerTrash
No less than 2 stand stands. ever.
If I only put one end on jack stands, I also chock the other end with rubber stops made for the purpose. None of that janky block of wood or concrete chock crap.

And I still won't get under a vehicle on two jack stands, even when chocked. I'll work around the edges, like on the hubs. But on two stands the force is being applied at an angle, and if I'm going to go underneath it I'd rather have it evenly and solidly distributed among four points straight down instead.
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Originally Posted by Kymasabe
i like the antiques, they look pretty stout, i'd have no problem shoving them under my truck and working on it. I wish my rig was as well built, I'm getting by with craftsman 3 ton jack, came with two pressed steel 3 ton stands, a pair of plastic ramps, and harbor freight 6 ton stands. And yes, i always put a wheel under the vehicle, and often put a 4x4 i have across it too.
I have an air over hydraulic huge piston lift in my shop that was installed in 1961. It was made to lift REAL cars and pickups and I trust it over any of the new four post full vehicle lifts.
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
If I only put one end on jack stands, I also chock the other end with rubber stops made for the purpose. None of that janky block of wood or concrete chock crap.

And I still won't get under a vehicle on two jack stands, even when chocked. I'll work around the edges, like on the hubs. But on two stands the force is being applied at an angle, and if I'm going to go underneath it I'd rather have it evenly and solidly distributed among four points straight down instead.
I know what you mean. I dont mean I will get under a vehicle with only 2 jackstands it probably came off that way. I mean if I am supporting a vehicle in the air it has at least 2 stands. I wont get under it without more support. heck when I did the drop shackles and hangars on my C10 I had 6 jackstands holding up the frame and I wasnt even under it

It scares me to death seeing people use those little factory scissor jacks and doing things like brakes where they are crawling around in the wheel wells without a care in the world




Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
I have an air over hydraulic huge piston lift in my shop that was installed in 1961. It was made to lift REAL cars and pickups and I trust it over any of the new four post full vehicle lifts.
I'd like to see some pictures sometime. I love old stuff like that
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