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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Needed to tow my buddies wrangler around today and figured I'd post this up to show anybody that doesn't know.

Tying two straps together with a conventional knot works, but good luck ever getting that knot undone after you have towed a car with it.

Here I have two straps, both are pretty short, and both have a hook on one end. I have tied a slip knot on the other end of each to create loops.


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Once you have tied two loops, inset one through the other, then insert something through the second loop to keep it from coming out.


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Now when you pull on these straps they wont become one, hope this helps somebody.

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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don't use anything steel, like that tire iron. or straps with hooks for that matter.

there is a way to tie two looped recovery straps together without them fusing together. one way is to roll a newspaper or floor mat up or even use a wooden dowel/stick to use in between both straps.
then there's the tow truck/recovery way, where you don't need any soft medium. this one is hard enough to do, let alone explain.

but one thing's for certain... no hooks or steel bars that can become flying death objects.

but at least you've got the right idea.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Yeah. I wouldn't trust that. If it breaks, it could go through someone's head.
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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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Yeah I understand anything steel and be extremely dangerous, and have been around when a strap has snapped and gone flying. Very scary for sure, but you gotta work with what you got. I was in the store the other day looking at the proper car straps with loops on both ends and stretch. I will definitely be picking one up soon
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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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This is more of a how not to. Never use straps with metal hooks and never ever use a tire iron to connect the straps together!
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dougfrompa
This is more of a how not to. Never use straps with metal hooks and never ever use a tire iron to connect the straps together!
So these must be bad...
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by vespa50sp

So these must be bad...
Yup that thing is junk. In general Harbor frieght should never have anything to do with your recovery gear or anything that your life depends on lol
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Get straps with loops on each end. You can just run them through eachothers loops if you need more length. Or use a d ring.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 07:31 AM
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Everyone should have one of these in their Jeep... They're not even very expensive.

Amazon.com: Smittybilt CC330 3" x 30' Recovery Strap - 30,000 lb Capacity: Automotive Amazon.com: Smittybilt CC330 3" x 30' Recovery Strap - 30,000 lb Capacity: Automotive
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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just learn how to tie the proper knots, i dont use tow straps or chains, i use 5/8 dynamic climbing rope. however i have studied and learnt how to tie many different knots for many different applications. if you learn what knots to tie then your ropes or straps will always come apart without issue. i carry two chunks of the 5/8 rope, one is around 18 ft long and one that is around 30 ft long.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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no, don't use a d-ring to join two straps.

here is a short and very informative video, however it doesn't cover everything, it at least covers the basics.


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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Thanks, that is a good idea that can work in a pinch for just towing a vehical. Regardless of how the rest of these wound up posters feel. LOL JK




Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
Needed to tow my buddies wrangler around today and figured I'd post this up to show anybody that doesn't know.

Tying two straps together with a conventional knot works, but good luck ever getting that knot undone after you have towed a car with it.

Here I have two straps, both are pretty short, and both have a hook on one end. I have tied a slip knot on the other end of each to create loops.


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Once you have tied two loops, inset one through the other, then insert something through the second loop to keep it from coming out.


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Now when you pull on these straps they wont become one, hope this helps somebody.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by caged
no, don't use a d-ring to join two straps.


still way better than a couple knots and a lug wrench amirite?
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419

still way better than a couple knots and a lug wrench amirite?
Ya sorta best way i was taught was to pass the loops threw each other then use a 1" oak dowel to hold them together
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Just yesterday we were yanking a stuck explorer off of a rock. The strap was one of those 20,000lb straps witht he hooks on each end. I didn't want to use it, but the attachement points limited us to using it. First couple pulls and that strap snapped in the middle of the strap. Had that broken at the metal clips things would have gone very differently. After that happened we hooked up my 30,000lb strap with two loop ends borrowing receiver hitches and other items to pull this guy off the rock. That thing didn't budge, and even if it had... it would have just been a broken strap.

Breaking a 20,000lb strap is quite loud, btw.
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