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Cameron770 04-25-2012 01:00 PM

ethanol gas?
 
Here like all of Oregon we are 10% ethanol. Well my jeep is a 87 and the system wasn't exactly designed to run that crap..

So my question would you be willing to pay a extra 10cents a gallon to get ethanol free gas? Here at the reservation I can get it all day long AND I get to pump it myself LOL. Been thinking about driving out there every time to fill up but just don't know if it would benefit me at all?

fallenknight308 04-25-2012 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron770 (Post 1727318)
Here like all of Oregon we are 10% ethanol. Well my jeep is a 87 and the system wasn't exactly designed to run that crap..

So my question would you be willing to pay a extra 10cents a gallon to get ethanol free gas? Here at the reservation I can get it all day long AND I get to pump it myself LOL. Been thinking about driving out there every time to fill up but just don't know if it would benefit me at all?

From what I understand, our motors must burn more of the eth-fuel
to make the same power as they would with regular gas. So its a waste.
Yeah I would pay 10c more, because in the end I would be getting better mileage.

sthon 04-25-2012 02:36 PM

Usually ethanol gas causes a 10% - 15% decrease in mpg. If ethanol free gas is only 10 cents more I would pay the extra $2.00 per tank. 10 cents extra is a hell of a deal, I used to spend an extra 25 cents for ethanol free and it was worth the extra $5 per tank.

Unfortunately I've yet to find ethanol free gas now that I live in Cali.

XJ-92 04-25-2012 02:57 PM

weird because when im out in iowa i only run it on 89octane with 10% ethanol and i get about 5mpg more then when i drive it in IL and use the regular 87octane without ethanol and the 89 is normally about 40-50 cents cheaper some times more like around holidays. i filled up in january for 2.89 a gallon then a week later it went back up to 3.50.

Bustedback 04-25-2012 03:51 PM

Non-ethanol fuel is way better for the whole ignition system, it requires less voltage to ignite and your engine will run smoother. I would pay the extra.

andrewmp6 04-25-2012 10:32 PM

10% is nothing even older stuff with a carb runs fine on it.As far as mileage lost you won't really notice it.I can't believe no one has said ethanol will clean your fuel system its alcohol so is most fuel system cleaners you buy in a bottle.

mrfajita 04-26-2012 02:33 AM

I get 4MPG more on E0 and it runs better. To see a basic effect of ethanol on old engines, get an old 2 stroke chainsaw. Mix some E10 gas for it, and some E0. Mine won't even run on the E10, runs like brand new on E0.

OttawaXJ 04-26-2012 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by andrewmp6 (Post 1728770)
10% is nothing even older stuff with a carb runs fine on it.As far as mileage lost you won't really notice it.I can't believe no one has said ethanol will clean your fuel system its alcohol so is most fuel system cleaners you buy in a bottle.

What Logic? get the hell out of here.... :shifty:

I've mentioned it before and nobody really cares to listen. Theres so much hate on ethanol fuel these days I dont even bother talking about it anymore because I'll just get flamed.

TheJerm 04-26-2012 08:37 AM

Yea but how often do you need to clean your injectors? I get 2-3 mpg different between e10 and e0. If i could find it around here now I would pay 10c more. ethanol mixed gas is garbage and a product of american politics

Bustedback 04-26-2012 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by TheJerm (Post 1729297)
Yea but how often do you need to clean your injectors? I get 2-3 mpg different between e10 and e0. If i could find it around here now I would pay 10c more. ethanol mixed gas is garbage and a product of american politics

And the clean air libs would like to bump it up to 20% ethanol.

TheJerm 04-26-2012 10:20 AM

yup but the funny thing is that it takes more energy to produce ethanol than you get out of it, aka more pollution that gasoline. That and it gives you less gas mileage but the gov still wants automakers to hit the 55 mpg mark by 2025. The only benefit to ethanol, outside of race cars, is that you can grow it. Typical american politics.

hankthetank 04-26-2012 11:20 AM

It's hard on old rubber lines that weren't designed for it...

Gizmo 04-26-2012 12:16 PM

Hell I would pay and extra .20 per gallon to not have to use that semi volatile swill being marketed as fuel. As others have said, the ethanol reduces mpg and has an impact on the fuel system.

Curiusgeorge 04-26-2012 11:15 PM

I've noticed that once i switched from 10% Ethanol to ethanol free, I don't have the heat soak issues I had before the switch. I also had some service done(radiator flush, and eprom flashed at the dealership) so I'm not sure if that's the only reason, but I don't plan on switching back to ethanol any time soon.

andrewmp6 04-27-2012 06:39 AM

The reason ethanol will drop your mileage is most cars and trucks on the road today are low compression,For ethanol to really burn fully you need higher compression a lot of drag racers i know switched from pricey race fuels to e85 and it runs just fine.


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