Originally Posted by hudfabxj (Post 1058653)

well, i have never ordered from straight ballistic , but i do build with thier parts.

i buy from a local shop near me.

on every forum i jump onto, there is a thread right near the top, about DONT BUY FROM BALLISTIC.

that right there started to scare me away. but now, i went to go pick up some parts from the local shop, only to find them saying "we will never order from ballistic again". after talking with them for a few, i found that they have the same gripe with ballistic as the consumers on the forums.

now i cant get parts in town, and with every forum talking about the business the way they do, i wont be buying ballistic fab products until i SEE that there is a change in business.

cant win em all with a free $1 part. some of us see past the glitter!!:walkman:


BTW-i think ballistic fab makes GREAT products, but im not a fan of how business is being conducted.

DAVE-why arent you giving away skulls to pirate4x4? oh cuz you know what that will get ya. haha!!

you can say the skulls are just you being nice, but when a business is being dogged and the throws out goodies, its obvious they are trying to save face. 75% of americans will fall for this. its a shame and an insult to us not falling for it.

Originally Posted by dogger15 (Post 1058689)

Def makes it hard for anyone want to order from these guys

Originally Posted by UN150N (Post 1058711)

I wouldn't say insult .. just because I got some free stuff doesn't mean im falling for anything ... and if you've never ordered anything from them with good or bad results I wouldn't get on a forum bashing them .. you like there stuff so order something and if they f*** up bash away... Dave thanks for the free stuff and the next time I need something you have ill give you a try and go from there!

Originally Posted by xjone (Post 1059477)

Search Ballistic over at pirate4x4. They will never get my money. They have screwed so many people its ridiculous.

Originally Posted by BallisticDave

When I was a teen, I remember a friend of mine telling me about a movie that was so action packed and awesome that you couldn't take your eyes off the screen! It was two hours long but felt like 10 minutes because it was so great!

When I went to see it, I looked at my watch more than I looked at the screen. I remember thinking, how could he have loved this movie and I hate it?

The answer is, experience it for yourself! Don't take the word of someone else for something you want to do, buy, see or have in your life.

I can't win over people with free skulls or free axle housings, nor will I try. This was a nice promo for us to enter this forum with.

It gained benefit from many seeing that we have fast shipping, solid customer service and the best packaging around!

If you never buy from us. It is our loss without question. I am only able to do things in the here and now. We are working hard to ensure better service and parts for our customers. I have admitted several times that we had lost our way in the past and are trying to fix those issues.

My advice to everyone in regard to ANY company you buy from is simple. If things don't go as you expect, don't wait to talk to someone in charge when you're fuming angry and there is nothing that is going to fix the situation. Let the person in charge know now! If this were the case in most of our upset customers situations, I would have been able to easily resolve any issue they had.

If you choose to try us out, I am happy to help. If not, I understand.

As far as why don't I do this promo on PBB? Because I already spend $$$ on the promotions we do there, and honestly, I don't think I could supply the skulls fast enough for the amount of members requesting. I/we like the specialty boards for some of our added bonus promo stuff. This isn't the only forum we run specials like this on.

If there is something anyone needs, please feel free to call me, or email me. I can be reached by phone by following this link http://www.ballisticdave.blogspot.com or my email is dave@ballisticfabrication.com

Take a moment and consider one more factor. We currently have a customer base that exceeds 40,000. How many complaints are made versus that number? 100? 200? 500? Not even close. There is a handful, and if I am able to find the forum and/or customer, I am always willing to help if given the chance.

I wish you the best! Dave

Originally Posted by hudfabxj

Dave, you take critisism well. and i applaud you for that.

i am going based off of others, including the shop i get parts from, but i dont think it really pertains to your annalogy.

i personally see people struggling because of this problem. i dont just hear it.

the fact that you put this promotion in this thread titled "DONT BUY FROM BALLISTIC FAB" is what throws me off and say it looks like you are trying to save face. im not just throwing it out there to be a jerk. but thats how my brain works.(i would have started a different thread to try and make this one fade out.)

if you have got the prob fixed, im sure it will start to show in all these jeep forums. and i will once again buy your parts.

i think you guys make GREAT products and really hope all your prob are getting fixed. and yes, i see that 100-500 out of 40k people doesnt seem like much to you, but thats 100-500 of YOUR customers. own it and fix it is all im sayin.

have a great day and build great parts.

Originally Posted by hudfabxj (Post 1062103)

Dave, you take critisism well. and i applaud you for that.

i am going based off of others, including the shop i get parts from, but i dont think it really pertains to your annalogy.

i personally see people struggling because of this problem. i dont just hear it.

the fact that you put this promotion in this thread titled "DONT BUY FROM BALLISTIC FAB" is what throws me off and say it looks like you are trying to save face. im not just throwing it out there to be a jerk. but thats how my brain works.(i would have started a different thread to try and make this one fade out.)

if you have got the prob fixed, im sure it will start to show in all these jeep forums. and i will once again buy your parts.

i think you guys make GREAT products and really hope all your prob are getting fixed. and yes, i see that 100-500 out of 40k people doesnt seem like much to you, but thats 100-500 of YOUR customers. own it and fix it is all im sayin.

have a great day and build great parts.

Originally Posted by BigDog/CJ (Post 1062461)

Things happen and people and companies make mistakes but the best thing to do is look forward and fix what is brocken. I see all this as just that and from what I am seeing they are fixing the things that were the problems in the past. IMO great job and I hope everything moves forward good from this point on.

Originally Posted by xjone (Post 1062638)

try again. they MAY being trying to change things but its obviously not working. They make great products if/when you receive them. If you search pirate you will see what I'm talking about. Engineering side of things they do a great job but on the business side they have screwed SO many people.

There are a few different vendors like Ballistic that makes awesome products and you actually receive them. So why chance it with Ballistic?

Originally Posted by xjone (Post 1062638)

try again. they MAY being trying to change things but its obviously not working. They make great products if/when you receive them. If you search pirate you will see what I'm talking about. Engineering side of things they do a great job but on the business side they have screwed SO many people.

There are a few different vendors like Ballistic that makes awesome products and you actually receive them. So why chance it with Ballistic?

Originally Posted by BigDog/CJ

There is the problem right there though, you have already said you never bought anything and never will because you base it off what others said from the past. He has stated that there has been changes made and that they are working to better the company so if you have never ordered from them yourself but want to go off of what people have said from the past then that is you. Why not try to order something if need be and see what service you get now days now that they have made changes? The way you are talking and what you are saying is trying to make it sound like people have ordered something and never got it from them, there is a big diff in never getting it and getting it late. Yes that can get people a little upset about something and yes they should have had better communications with them in the past BUT that is the past and they are working on the future now no reason to keep on bashing about it on here and bringing up something from another forum.

I'm not wanting to have a pissing match or argue with you on this but if you yourself never ordered anything then I don't feel you have the right to talk trash about their past problems. It's like many of the people out in the world that have made bad choices and broke the law in the past but now that they are trying to do right and live their lives it is still hard as hell for them to get a job because of people that won't hire someone with a record. People make mistakes and I don't feel they should be held against them for ever.

Originally Posted by 1plunk (Post 1063405)

Couldn't agree more, from what I have dealt with Dave and his company, if I need something they offer, o will be ordering from them. Thanks again Dave!