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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
You are mistaken. They cut down the shaft and respond then to accept a joke. It is not a hack and tap.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Voice to text brings the funny.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
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Think that's funny, that's nothing. I used voice to text once and told my wife she had a big truck a$$.

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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
Think that's funny, that's nothing. I used voice to text once and told my wife she had a big truck a$$.
hahaha. That depend if she took it as a compliment or an insult
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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She laughed.....thank gawd!!
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bsichter01XJ
Thanks everyone for all your input. I do have another question though. Does the NP231 t case have the same mounting bolt pattern as the 242J tcase and would it be better to have a NP231 tcase?
Depends how you want to use the jeep,If its more a daily driver keep the 242 case,If you want a off road toy then swap to a 231.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewmp6
Depends how you want to use the jeep,If its more a daily driver keep the 242 case,If you want a off road toy then swap to a 231.
It will be for both, a Daily and off roader. I'm planning on a 4.5 lift with long arm kit with 33's. It will be a winter project and i will be posting pics.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 06:30 AM
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The 242 case is stronger than a 231 case (larger, ribbed casting, etc), and the addition of AWD makes it more generally useful (especially for slick surfaces). The 231 has a larger aftermarket (more SYE kits, 2-Low kit, 4:1 option, etc). They are the same length and generally interchangeable except that the 242 is bigger round and sits a little lower than the 231.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
You are mistaken. They cut down the shaft and cut new splines.
yes but they cut down the stock shaft and cut the same amount of stock splines, so it will have the exact same outcome as a hack n tap just a different process to get there.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 08:55 AM
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Still wrong.
A Hack-n-Tap kit requires you cut off a predetermined length of the existing shaft, drill and tap the shaft and hang a new yoke or H & T flange on it.

A short shaft kit replaces the entire main shaft and adds a new tailcone that has a larger hole that allows the yoke to slide into the tailcone. The yoke is then retained by a large nut (1 1/8") that is threaded onto the main shaft.

Huge difference.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepcherokee89
yes but they cut down the stock shaft and cut the same amount of stock splines, so it will have the exact same outcome as a hack n tap just a different process to get there.
Not the same. The TomWoods output shaft will place a HD yoke close to the transfer case and will look just like the front output. The hack-n-tap places the yoke far away from case. I don't think spline count is an issue here.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
Still wrong.
A Hack-n-Tap kit requires you cut off a predetermined length of the existing shaft, drill and tap the shaft and hang a new yoke or H & T flange on it.

A short shaft kit replaces the entire main shaft and adds a new tailcone that has a larger hole that allows the yoke to slide into the tailcone. The yoke is then retained by a large nut (1 1/8") that is threaded onto the main shaft.

Huge difference.
^^^

Originally Posted by SteveMongr
Not the same. The TomWoods output shaft will place a HD yoke close to the transfer case and will look just like the front output. The hack-n-tap places the yoke far away from case. I don't think spline count is an issue here.
^^^^^ Yes ,,,right here.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
Still wrong.
A Hack-n-Tap kit requires you cut off a predetermined length of the existing shaft, drill and tap the shaft and hang a new yoke or H & T flange on it.

A short shaft kit replaces the entire main shaft and adds a new tailcone that has a larger hole that allows the yoke to slide into the tailcone. The yoke is then retained by a large nut (1 1/8") that is threaded onto the main shaft.

Huge difference.
so because he cuts off a little more of the shaft and threads the end instead of drill and taping that means its not a hack n tap? i disagree it is still a hack n tap just a different style. i am not the only one that argues this

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Not the same. The TomWoods output shaft will place a HD yoke close to the transfer case and will look just like the front output. The hack-n-tap places the yoke far away from case. I don't think spline count is an issue here.
the iro hack n tap kit places a hd yoke just like the front also
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/10482.html
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:34 AM
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And it sits FAR OUTSIDE THE TAIL CONE.

The TW kit IS NOT just shortened and then packaged up to be sold as an SYE. There's plenty of machining done to turn the OEM core into a true SYE kit that keeps the yoke inside the tailcone.

I don't see anyone agreeing with you in way.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:29 PM
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Images to compare.
To avoid the $300 core charge, an output shaft from a functioning junkyard case could be sent in with order.
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