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Old May 13, 2020 | 06:06 PM
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From: Texas/New Mexico/Florida
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: V6 2.8L
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Hey gang, Iエm back on the forum after several years with some exciting news. Iエve got another post about being torn between a 1990 4runner and my beloved 1986 XJ with the 2.8L. Iエll update that post with the scoop on that situation, but in the spirit of this thread Iエll stay on topic. Iエve already posted pics and info of my 86 in this thread several years back. The last thing I did with the old beater was drive it 13 hours straight from New Mexico to Texas in 2014... Itエs been started and run a few times since then but for the most part itエs been sitting. So of course now Iエm going to revive it in a short couple of weeks and drive it from TX to the southern tip of Florida. I plan to start work next week, unless I find something horribly wrong with the vehicle once I知 there to look at it. I know it definitely needs a significant amount of work put into it before I feel like it will be safe on the road. It was already a little sketchy when I made the trip back in 2014.

Tentative plans so far include power steering pump and box replacement, and probably the pressure hose/lines as well. It leaked pwr steering fluid for years, and the steering was so loose I could turn the wheel a few inches before the wheels would respond. Also want/need to do all the suspension, linkages, tie rods/ends, check out braking system, flush/change fluids and the list goes on. Everything on the vehicle is stock, and has probably been replaced at some point if not multiple times. A/C delete. Baling wire here and there.

I知 mining the forum for good posts on older model cherokees, specifically with the old 2.8leaker. At this time I知 really just trying to focus on making it safe and road ready and will consider some builds when I get it to FL, but if I知 going to be digging into it so deep then I want to consider options for reasonable swaps and upgrades that won稚 add much time to the work I have to do. I知 clued in to the Durango steering box swaps but not sure if its worth it for my plans for using the vehicle, but I知 up for discussion! Any tips, advice, or leads on good info will be greatly appreciated. If you think this is a bad idea, you池e not alone. I just can稚 help myself. In 2016 I drove a factory original 1971 Fiat 600R from central Argentina up and over the Andes Mountains to Lima, Peru. Before I bought the Fiat, this 86 Cherokee was my only car, then enter the 1990 4Runner. It痴 a personal problem.
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Old May 13, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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There should be a pressure switch on that power steering hose. It is supposed to operate a fast idle vacuum motor on the carb. Make sure you have that working to avoid stalling at idle when you turn the steering wheel
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Old May 14, 2020 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
There should be a pressure switch on that power steering hose. It is supposed to operate a fast idle vacuum motor on the carb. Make sure you have that working to avoid stalling at idle when you turn the steering wheel
That痴 awesome, thanks 4.3L XJ! Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 53000970. That痴 what they致e got listed on rockauto, so I imagine that痴 probably what you池e talking about. That痴 a great thing to keep in mind as I go in on that system. THere痴 little chance it痴 been changed since 1986 (this is a family car so I think I壇 know), so even though it痴 a pretty basic part I値l consider getting a new one if I知 going to redo that whole system anyway. I just wish the little thing didn稚 cost 60 bones!
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Old May 14, 2020 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by popmomcorn
Well, it happened a few months after I wanted but I have acquired the cherokee. I'm going to start a build thread or moreover a restoration thread. I'm thinking of a name for the jeep and the build thread. I was thinking "Evil86" since when most people hear "2.8l V6" they get a sour look on their face. After looking it over today and yesterday I know it needs:
Spider gears in rear axle
Turn signals
Brakes. The master cylinder is full but the pedal goes to the floor. Not too sure what to think about this.
Every floor pan except the cargo, I can get away with patches for that.
Clutch master cylinder bled (it was empty) I'm hoping the internal cylinder isn't bad but Murphy's law I have a feeling it is.
Both quarter panels (2 door!)
Doors, driver I can get salvage passenger there's no hope.
Front drive shaft
Shocks
Valve cover gaskets
God knows how many vacuum lines....
The carb needs help (when I start it up it runs at 3k rpm)

The good:
IT RUNS. The motor was rebuilt and the odometer says 247k.
The transmission and transfer case.
It has a sunroof and wing windows and they don't leak
Did I mention it has a 2.8 that sounds beautiful?
Clean title, 1 owner. Despite having little floor left the sub-frame rails are all solid.


I know this sounds like (and is) an ungodly amount of work and money but it's an 86 5speed 2 door Laredo charcoal colored I think it's worth saving. I want to be able to say that I saved a jeep. it has all of my favorite options and this is one of the only pre 87 Cherokees I've ever seen (in NJ anyway, not too much lasts due to extreme salt...) and I think restoring it will be quite an experience. And fun!
I’ll be checking out your posts to see if there’s anything in there that will help me out. We’re dealing with very similar rigs so I’m sure there will be. I’m about to start bringing my old 86 back to life, and a road trip’s gonna happen when I’m done come hell or high water. So far this is what I think I’ll really need to do (bear with me, I’m not a pro mechanic I just drive ‘em and fix ‘em when they break, so I’m probably omitting or misnaming lots of parts):

-vacuum line... i hate this idea, but it might be a good call for me to replace most or all of the vacuum lines. The carb doesn’t have many miles on it but it has been sitting... but the vacuum lines are probably all original haha
-air filter
-in-line fuel filter... when I did the carb the last time, the hard line got messed up, so to save the carb from potentially dirty gas for the time being I think I can modify the current carb fuel line to accept an additional fuel filter. Hopefully that doesn’t make an issue with fuel pressure and engine performance
-front and rear springs... the shocks are “old” but I don’t think they actually have that many miles on them. part of me feels like, if I’m going to do this, maybe I should find a cheap aftermarket upgrade that’s for sale somewhere, but time is an issue... but if I just use new stock parts now, then I won’t want to throw more money at the suspension later...
-Power steering Pump
-New/remanufactured steering gear box
-new power steering pressure hose, and probably the associated pressure sensor (thanks again for the tip I got here from 4.3L XJ)
-sway-bar(s), tie-rod, tie-rod ends, pitman arm, steering linkage, steering damper
The stuff above is what I’m really not sure about. I’m probably naming some parts that don’t need to be replaced, and I’m probably mis-naming them, and omitting things that do need to be replaced. I wish I could start crawling around under there now but I won’t have access to the car until early next week. Is new pitman arm necessary? Tie rod ends yes... steering damper yes?
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