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OneArmRedneck 02-03-2014 11:15 AM

I've put in 2x6 rockers....Opinions needed
 
Ok, in the process of making my XJ a lot more stout and I've already installed frame stiffeners and the 2x6 rockers, my question is as follows; due to the way my sliders are welded in, they are basically pinched & welded between two pieces of angle iron, do I need to run tube from the sliders to the frame? Personally, I feel like that it is unnecessary as the sliders are unbelievably solid. Thoughts? Opinions? Here is a link to my build so you can see how I've put the angle in and secured the 2x6 to said angle.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/project-asat-185594/

Any opinions or input will be heavily weighed & thought out. Like I previously stated, I do not think that they will be needed. I also can see how they could get hung on stuff, which wouldn't be cool. As of now I have it in my mind to not do it but I can be persuaded if a proper case presented. Thanks guys.

Lowrange2 02-03-2014 11:43 AM

If you wheel it, yes. If you drive it to work and the mall, no.

OneArmRedneck 02-03-2014 12:07 PM

It's strictly for wheeling & hunting, not a DD by any means. Is it a stiffness issue? A strength issue? Just curious, I don't see the 1/4" thick slider bending or anything, but I have lots to learn.

Atmos 02-03-2014 12:54 PM

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rocks are way more unforgiving than you realize

mine weren't tied into the frame. they started off nice and flat like yours and ended up at a 45* angle. eventually they bent up so high that they sealed my rear door shut. although, mine were only welded on the outside, not the inside

anyway. I learned my lesson. my new sliders will be tied in with 3 or 4 pieces of 1.5x3.5 3/16. they're so easy to make. you can't beat peace of mind

edit: ah totally just realized I didnt take any pics of them. anyway, you can see 1 of them behind this shackle hanger. they sit flush with the frame and go through the floor

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OneArmRedneck 02-03-2014 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Atmos (Post 2762093)
rocks are way more unforgiving than you realize

mine weren't tied into the frame. they started off nice and flat like yours and ended up at a 45* angle. eventually they bent up so high that they sealed my rear door shut. although, mine were only welded on the outside, not the inside

anyway. I learned my lesson. my new sliders will be tied in with 3 or 4 pieces of 1.5x3.5 3/16. they're so easy to make. you can't beat peace of mind

edit: ah totally just realized I didnt take any pics of them. anyway, you can see 1 of them behind this shackle hanger. they sit flush with the frame and go through the floor

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pscagr4zf9.jpg

Is it necessary that they go through the floor? Cutting up my floor was one thing I was hoping to avoid.

Thanks for the advice so far fellas.

Atmos 02-03-2014 01:23 PM

mine are super high clearance. I also cut my doors. I think yours will hang low enough where you shouldn't have to cut the floor

OneArmRedneck 02-03-2014 01:32 PM

Thanks! I'll get started on them this week.

OneArmRedneck 02-06-2014 12:17 PM

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I finished welding in my passenger side slider then put braces from the slider to the frame on the drivers side, going to passenger side tonight. Used 1.75" tube @ 13.5" long, cut the ends to 45* and welded 1.75"x2.25"x.25" strap to it to close the ends.Attachment 328771Attachment 328772Attachment 328773Attachment 328774Attachment 328775Attachment 328776Attachment 328777Attachment 328778Attachment 328779

Atmos 02-06-2014 12:37 PM

nice. those definitely aren't going anywhere now. bummer about how low they hang though

OneArmRedneck 02-06-2014 01:07 PM

Thanks! I agree, they are lower than I'd like BUT they are solid and I don't see a whole lot of clearance issues. Also, I didn't see any other way to mount them without cutting into the floor, which I wanted to avoid. I was thinking of getting a sheet of 1/2" or 3/4" HDPE and attaching so they don't get caught on anything. Worth trying or will the HDPE not hold up?

nitro450exp 02-10-2014 11:52 AM

Hello,


This is how I did mine.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...7-p7100310.jpg
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...8-p7100315.jpg
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...6-p7100321.jpg

Nitro

OneArmRedneck 02-24-2014 02:13 PM

I almost did this before I had even posted this thread; you're build thread/s have been a huge idea mine for my build. Thanks Nitro.

Hammered 03-13-2014 04:03 AM

the slider wont "slide" with a ton of tube welded like a step ladder across the bottom

OneArmRedneck 03-13-2014 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Hammered (Post 2802948)
the slider wont "slide" with a ton of tube welded like a step ladder across the bottom

yup. I know. But I don't have junk, rotten rockers anymore and my XJ is stiff as heck. If it becomes a recurring problem I'll just break out the plasma. Thanks for the input tho!

uber 03-13-2014 07:14 PM

or just attach a skid plate of sorts that goes across the whole thing.. at least then it'll still slide

Rollincoal420 03-28-2014 11:10 AM

Here's mine. Maybe it will help. I used 2x8 tho

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/29/ha2a9e9y.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/29/qyta3ube.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/29/musasy2u.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/29/ybyhutan.jpg

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OneArmRedneck 03-28-2014 11:18 AM

Those are bad! You using them for air tanks? My next XJ will be like that.

Rollincoal420 03-28-2014 11:37 AM

Once I get a compressor, that's the plan. But for right now, they r ready to b ised as air tanks. I got them plumbed to feed air in, under the rear seat, and I got a quick connect in each b pillar. This pic is bfore I put the quick connects on, but got the nipple shown in the pic

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/29/dezaqepe.jpg

PocketsEmpty 03-28-2014 11:41 AM

Very nice! I plan to do mine like that, but I'm going to avoid cutting into the floor.

Atmos dude...much respect for the job...but those tie-ins...damn. I'd be welding a sheet underneath to make it all flat. I bet it would be pretty heavy after that. lol

sandaddik2 05-19-2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty (Post 2817234)
Very nice! I plan to do mine like that, but I'm going to avoid cutting into the floor.

Atmos dude...much respect for the job...but those tie-ins...damn. I'd be welding a sheet underneath to make it all flat. I bet it would be pretty heavy after that. lol

A piece of 1/8 might work with a few extra braces to keep it from folding. I have been thinking about doing the same thing for a while now...

Atmos 05-19-2014 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty (Post 2817234)
Atmos dude...much respect for the job...but those tie-ins...damn. I'd be welding a sheet underneath to make it all flat. I bet it would be pretty heavy after that. lol

Hm? My tie ins? I just finished them yesterday lol. I plan on a piece of UHMW some time in the future.

Cutting into the floor is awesome tho. I only had to cut out a bit it will be easy to cover. Super ultra fancy high clearance

98cherokeecrawler 05-24-2014 09:49 PM

I just cut my old rocker panels out and welded 3/16 6x3 to the rocker sills and it's held up so far. No bracing to the frame.

Atmos 05-26-2014 10:19 PM

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only picture I have of mine. I only had material for 3 tie ins so I'm banking on the cage holding the rest of it in place

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OneArmRedneck 05-27-2014 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Atmos (Post 2866216)
only picture I have of mine. I only had material for 3 tie ins so I'm banking on the cage holding the rest of it in place

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pspjemk8sh.jpg

Thats awesome!!


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