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ok im not sure how to respond to this post, if it offended you sorry my rant wasnt about you and i wasnt looking for ways to downgrade you, you mentioned you werent sure of lingo so i posted something that may help in the future[because as i said there have been numerous posts asking bout such things when its right in front of them for everyone to see they just choose not to look for them selves], i by no means eat sleep and breathe computer, ive simply been around jeeps and many forums long enough to know what causes problems with them and lazy people[not pointing at you] just lazy people in general slow them down by clogging them with repeat threads about simple things that have been beaten to death or posting where it doesnt belong, this leads to needing bigger servers and such along with wearing down moderators and sometimes leads to forums falling apart which sucks.

 

Ok maybe that wasnt the best example to use SORRY geez.. The point should have been clear nonetheless. It's pretty obvious theres a big difference between custom making a set of tube flares or exo and making a CAI... there better?? The point was maybe turning you xj into a truggy and cut and rolling your fenders aren't exactly in the same field of fabrication.

 

cold air intake is still advanced tech

 

Not if you fabricate the heat shield yourself from sheet metal. If measuring and cutting to fit metal isnt fabrication then apparently the definiton of fabrication is wrong

 

I think this would work too. Then a second sub-forum could be added for all the questions about fab that are definatly more appriate in a fab specific area instead of advanced tech where they get lost and the fab guys that need to answer the questions don't even see them. I'm not a fab guy, but I like reading about fabrication and I'm not going to to stroll the advanced tech section to find 1 in 15 posts about fab when I feel like reading about fab. If we're mixing categories, why even have the categories?

I guess in point everyone is squaking about newbies (though vets doe it too) posting the wrong stuff in the fab section when I can't really blame them. The organization of the sections is not intuitive to how the moderators want to run the sections. The organization of fab related topics should be broken down so that it is intuitive for anyone who reads the titles/subtitles that they know where their posts needs to go.

The OEM/advanced sections are a good example. The subtitle for OEM is:

All OEM related XJ Tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

The subtitle for teh Advanced section is:

All advanced Tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here. Examples are lifts and SYE's.

And on the other end of the scale the fab section subtitle is:

All fabrication posts go here.

We're setting ourselves up for failure here. I know by reading those that if I have a question about the best way to weld up rockers to my body I want to go to the fabrication section. However, if I do that I'm going to get chastised and told to go to the advanced tech section which doesn't make any sense. I think we need to stop complaining and mke this place more user friendly. In other words fix the root cause and don't just treat the sympoms.

 

I know I am a newbie here myself, but to me, there are minor fabrication, which is pretty basic, to full on major, which take alot of know how & skill to complete.

for minor fabrication, to me is swapping out seats, or rails, adding flares, a CAI, anything that is relatively bolt on, whether they made it or bougnt it & made it work, like a home made CAI.

major fabrication, would be installing new spring hangers on axle, or even the turning an ammo can into a center arm rest with cutting & welding, or even fabricating new mounts to swap in different drivetrains.

no matter how hard you try, people will have different opinions as to what is major, versus minor, or someone that wants to show his new mod in the regular forum instead of the fabrication forum.

I also dont believe that a major mod has to involve welding,, but has to involve lots of fabrication. growing up, one of my neighbors made tool boxes for the front of his 4X4, every different 4X4 he owned, & I wish I had took pics, but didnt, & he is deceased now, they were mounted on both sides of his winch, lockable, & were made mostly of wood, on a angle iron base, which was welded, & in front of the boxes, he put plastic pipe with U-bolts to hold them in place, as he loved going to the coast & the pipes were for his fishing rods while he was parked on the beach. he just used the boxes for storage of odds & ends, like the extra winch cable, ****** block, ropes, gloves, etc...

 

lalalalalal bump!

 

BUMP.

 

Bump

 

BUMP. Everyday I get on here, there is at least one new thread that has nothing to do with actual fabrication. Just a shame that adults cant follow simple directions, and are compremising the fab section.

C'mon guys!!! I like the fab section!! Dont You?

 

Bump. I am a liker of the Fabrication Section threads, and a non-liker of the "Need Help, I'm Posting in the Wrong Section Because I Like Not Helping" threads.

 

So, people can't read, and just post wherever they want. Lets start asking about lifts in the OEM section, what size fuel filter in the advanced, and all OEM and Advanced questions in FAB. Maybe post a build in the Introductions.

Sometimes I wonder if people just do it to be stupid. By the way, this post serves strictly as a bump

 

Bump

 

Then why the hypocritical rant...? (rhetorical question )

 

okay... following along on the discussion here.... if the definition of fabrication is metal work, then the "homebrew mods" thread belongs in the "advanced tech" section.... not in the fabrication section... and apparently it hasn't bothered any of the mods that are on here yet, because it's still in the fab section.

just food for thought.