Ethanol fuel is more for evaperative emissions, not really to save fuel.

 

I don't agree with that, Busted! Gasoline's vapor point is around -50 F and I don't think you can change that much. Plus alcohol is hygroscopic and sucks in water vapor as we are all aware. Farmers are being paid to plant more corn for ethanol and being discouraged to plant sugarcane or sugarbeets for the same purpose. WHY?? AND lastest reports show we are buying ethanol from Brazil for gasoline additive. Does this make any sense?

I'm sorry I got off topic on this, but I'm VERY concerned about what's going on with gasoline pricing and formulation. Also, What the **** is a winter blend? Years ago TEXACO put butane in the fuel to help with low temperature burning. THIS made no sense because butane remains a liquid below 32 F and boils off above it. Gas tanks were vented then so as soon as the temp got above freezing, you lost the butane.

Sorry! I'll shut up now.

 

Granted not a true 4wd like we l ow our Jeeps, but Subaru is extremely capable and will do 30-33mpg on the highway.

 

True so I'll change what he said. No jeep 4.0 can get 33mpg without being build crazy or something like that

 

I typically get 18-19 combined city / hwy.

 

Okay, I'll have to admit Subaru has got something going, but the only Subaru's I've seen off-road are power-rally cars. The WRX is awesome!

 

You probably won't see a ton, they are owned by folks who don't know or don't care about how capable they are. Australians tend to be the ones that push them. They are not wheeling rigs though, but are awesome for faster paced pff-roading. Favored by a good number of storm chasers.

 

Hipsters and lesbians love Subarus for some reason.

 

They carry a lot of pbr in the back.

 

LOL, Subaru is the self proclaimed official vehicle of lesbians. See Outback Forums, where the proclamation was made.

 

I think we got off topic here. The point here is MOST 4X4's don't get very good gas mileage. I've learned to live with it because I love the versatility and security of knowing I can get wherever I want to go regardless of road conditions. However, I don't drive it as much as I'd like because of gas prices!

Just an aside, I hit a section of flooded road the other night that I didn't see at about 40 mph. The water splashed about 15 feet in the air, but the engine never skipped a beat! Love them Jeeps!

 

Ok so we have an 87 Cherokee and since we live in the sticks
( 130 miles from the nearest traffic lights)we don't really have a city mileage...but we do get 18 when we hit the few stop signs and up to 26 when just driving hiway. No computer here just our brains and gas and mileage. So I was wondering if the newer beefed up engines
( 96-99) get poorer mileage? Was surprised at such low mileage as my dad who drove his 87 for years never got anything that low. Granted he is not a lead footer like me. Both are stick.

 

'04 GC quada-tracII,4.0 16mpg in town and 21 highway

 

Ranchwoman just brought up a good point. With a standard transmission, you don't waste gas with slippage and making heat by pumping hydraulic fluid. The highway mileage is better mostly because of the lockup feature of the newer transmissions.

You've got to remember that 4X4s are notibly geared lower than highway cars so higher RPMs burn more gas. The best mpg your ever going to get is a sustained 40 mph on flat ground. Where are you going to do that? The main reason for the 40 mph is you're not breaking as much air resistance.

Just keep it tuned up, drive conservativly, and live with whatever you get.

Poor mileage is just one of the sacrifices of driving a 4X4. Having fun is the whole reason for driving one!

 

I have a 1997 with the 5.2L and get about the same