Welp, here 'goes... Project slow n' steady...
#451
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Hey, never a bad time to brush up on the ole' wiring and soldering skills. You're a pretty handy guy, you should be alright. It's tedious, but the end result is always worth it when it's done right.
#452
CF Veteran
I know I can do it. I just don't know what kind of hack job the PO did when he installed the one that's in it haha
#453
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Yeah, I lucked out. The PO of mine used a Metra harness... but OH MY GOD, the hack job came into play when attempting to install a flip-out touch-screen DVD receiver when the screen won't even open all the way up because of the dash configuration (see post #2 on page 1). I couldn't even sell the thing because the monitor gear on it was so stripped it wouldn't open up any further.
#454
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Finished up the wiring harness at my desk before lunch. Went outside on my last break a few minutes ago and melted down heat heat shrink tubing. Pulled the stereo out of the dash, installed the harness, plugged it in, BOOM goes the dynamite. Looks awesome too... purdy colors.
#455
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Yeah, I lucked out. The PO of mine used a Metra harness... but OH MY GOD, the hack job came into play when attempting to install a flip-out touch-screen DVD receiver when the screen won't even open all the way up because of the dash configuration (see post #2 on page 1). I couldn't even sell the thing because the monitor gear on it was so stripped it wouldn't open up any further.
#456
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Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
When I bought mine the PO had replaced the stock stereo with an aftermarket one that didn't work very well. He had also replaced the stock antenna and antenna mount with a horrible aftermarket one. So the stereo had crappy reception and the CD's skipped when ever you hit a pebble on the road.
I digress. The PO didn't even try to wire the harness correctly. He just taped the wire ends together.... with paper tape not even electrical tape! But it does seem that he upgraded the rear speakers and added an amplifier to the system. Its placed in the dash behind the stereo.
I digress. The PO didn't even try to wire the harness correctly. He just taped the wire ends together.... with paper tape not even electrical tape! But it does seem that he upgraded the rear speakers and added an amplifier to the system. Its placed in the dash behind the stereo.
#457
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Yeah no kidding... I could have at least gotten a couple hundred for it. People around here go nuts over those stupid things.
Ugh... some people just shouldn't be allowed near a car. Nay, not even to drive it!
Here's a couple pics of the new unit in...
Tried out some new colors in it today... these kinda remind me of Tron Legacy's colors
When I bought mine the PO had replaced the stock stereo with an aftermarket one that didn't work very well. He had also replaced the stock antenna and antenna mount with a horrible aftermarket one. So the stereo had crappy reception and the CD's skipped when ever you hit a pebble on the road.
I digress. The PO didn't even try to wire the harness correctly. He just taped the wire ends together.... with paper tape not even electrical tape! But it does seem that he upgraded the rear speakers and added an amplifier to the system. Its placed in the dash behind the stereo.
I digress. The PO didn't even try to wire the harness correctly. He just taped the wire ends together.... with paper tape not even electrical tape! But it does seem that he upgraded the rear speakers and added an amplifier to the system. Its placed in the dash behind the stereo.
Here's a couple pics of the new unit in...
Tried out some new colors in it today... these kinda remind me of Tron Legacy's colors
#458
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In other news... I went back in and improved the wiring harness for my stereo. Original config didn't have provision for the 12v power for when the lights are on to dim the display on the radio. Found the correct pin, pulled a pin on the Metra harness for power antenna (wasn't using it) and put it over in the location where I needed it. BOOM! Auto-dimming display. Also installed the microphone wire so that the bluetooth calling and commands will work.
While I was doing all that, I went ahead and ran the wires for the CB through the headliner... and since I had the headliner down, I ran the wires for the soundbar and installed the soundbar as well.
Of course, while I was doing all of THAT, I had the radio on the entire time. Not a big deal normally 'cause I only had it on for a couple of hours... anything beyond that and I hook up the charger. Well, the battery was already low for some reason, so that plan failed... barely had enough juice to start it, I couldn't find my battery charger, and the alternator WASN'T CHARGING IT!!!
BOOM goes the alternator... apparently when you get a code 41, you should replace your alternator soon. I took that for granted thinking it was on its way out.... didn't realize it already pretty much dead.
Drove it to work (got called in ) with just enough charge in it to power the necessary electronics to keep the motor running. The last 2 turns of my commute, the fuel pump was getting such low voltage, I barely had enough fuel pressure to limp it through the parking lot
While I was doing all that, I went ahead and ran the wires for the CB through the headliner... and since I had the headliner down, I ran the wires for the soundbar and installed the soundbar as well.
Of course, while I was doing all of THAT, I had the radio on the entire time. Not a big deal normally 'cause I only had it on for a couple of hours... anything beyond that and I hook up the charger. Well, the battery was already low for some reason, so that plan failed... barely had enough juice to start it, I couldn't find my battery charger, and the alternator WASN'T CHARGING IT!!!
BOOM goes the alternator... apparently when you get a code 41, you should replace your alternator soon. I took that for granted thinking it was on its way out.... didn't realize it already pretty much dead.
Drove it to work (got called in ) with just enough charge in it to power the necessary electronics to keep the motor running. The last 2 turns of my commute, the fuel pump was getting such low voltage, I barely had enough fuel pressure to limp it through the parking lot
#459
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Alright guys, the verdict is still out on the TyreBeads. I really don't quite know what's up with these stupid things, but I'm having them removed. I don't know if it's my tires, or the brand themselves, but these make my Jeep ride WORSE than before sometimes, and then better than it EVER has other times. I can't quite pinpoint what the issue is either. Because temperature doesn't have a bearing on it, terrain doesn't, speed and acceleration doesn't. I just don't get it. I'm having them removed and returning them to the manufacturer though.
I have 2 theories...
#1 the small white (I think they're ceramic) TyreBeads balance beads are not made for off-road tires. Not sure how that would make any difference, but think, these things are small enough to fit down the valve stem... probably about 1/3rd the diameter of the valve stem so... maybe they just don't have enough "mass" to really do any good.
#2 Six months ago when my tire place balanced these, the tire tech said they were out of round. I'm not really sure what that means because all tires are technically out of round, that's why you balance them.
In either case, I can't give an honest review of the product. Sad to say, but I WON'T be doing so either. Friday, I'm going to the tire shop to have the beads removed, the white letters flipped outward (been wanting that done for a while anyway), and the tires balanced conventionally. I've already created a return label for the product through Amazon, and the next time I go with a balance bead, I'm going to take the advice of a fellow member on CF that has had EXCELLENT results with airsoft bb's.
So there ya have it. Perhaps with brand new tires, or just regular car tires, these would work better. But I'm not going to spend anymore time on them myself.
Here's a link to the product if you guys want more info on it...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
In the future, I'll be going with Duma's recommendation of the Airsoft BBs as picture in my previous post.
I have 2 theories...
#1 the small white (I think they're ceramic) TyreBeads balance beads are not made for off-road tires. Not sure how that would make any difference, but think, these things are small enough to fit down the valve stem... probably about 1/3rd the diameter of the valve stem so... maybe they just don't have enough "mass" to really do any good.
#2 Six months ago when my tire place balanced these, the tire tech said they were out of round. I'm not really sure what that means because all tires are technically out of round, that's why you balance them.
In either case, I can't give an honest review of the product. Sad to say, but I WON'T be doing so either. Friday, I'm going to the tire shop to have the beads removed, the white letters flipped outward (been wanting that done for a while anyway), and the tires balanced conventionally. I've already created a return label for the product through Amazon, and the next time I go with a balance bead, I'm going to take the advice of a fellow member on CF that has had EXCELLENT results with airsoft bb's.
So there ya have it. Perhaps with brand new tires, or just regular car tires, these would work better. But I'm not going to spend anymore time on them myself.
Here's a link to the product if you guys want more info on it...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
In the future, I'll be going with Duma's recommendation of the Airsoft BBs as picture in my previous post.
#460
CF Veteran
I don't think there's anything you can do to balance an out of round tire. Unless you remove material. Balancing just evens out the weight. A manufacturing defect would cause an out of round tire I believe. Maybe you can get them replaced by the manufacturer?
#461
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I really just need to get new tires. Putting it off because... well... I don't wanna fork over the dough for them.
#462
CF Veteran
I didn't mean they were perfect. But if I shop mentioned it it's probably out of the norm...Otherwise it wouldn't be worth mentioning...:-P
Dang things are so expensive. Luckily my dad just gave me a free set of 225-65R16's from his old promaster that are M&S rated. E plies though so we'll see how decent they are in the snow. Probably will save those for the MK(the center hole in the rims I put them on aren't wide enough so I'd need to get them machined or something to use on the XJ), but the KM2's aren't dead yet and we might be trading it in soon.
Dang things are so expensive. Luckily my dad just gave me a free set of 225-65R16's from his old promaster that are M&S rated. E plies though so we'll see how decent they are in the snow. Probably will save those for the MK(the center hole in the rims I put them on aren't wide enough so I'd need to get them machined or something to use on the XJ), but the KM2's aren't dead yet and we might be trading it in soon.
#463
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could be that the wheel itself is not balanced, or the tire has a slipped belt or a lateral imbalance. They also don't correct for shimmy/shakes.
That's the ultimate reason I didn't choose beads - I was worried my tires or wheels had a large imbalance (all the weights needed on one side).
I wouldn't worry about getting them removed though. They do work to assist in balancing the tire. Just get conventional weights added to correct the lateral imbalance, and let the beads take care of the road forces and to account for tire wear.
That's the ultimate reason I didn't choose beads - I was worried my tires or wheels had a large imbalance (all the weights needed on one side).
I wouldn't worry about getting them removed though. They do work to assist in balancing the tire. Just get conventional weights added to correct the lateral imbalance, and let the beads take care of the road forces and to account for tire wear.
Last edited by dukie564; 09-22-2016 at 09:02 AM.
#464
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Thread Starter
Did a little research on "out of round" tires.
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/112
One of the three primary causes are manufacturing. These are cheap cheap tires, so it wouldnt' surprise me if it's just poor quality tires that are doing it. At first I suspected bent rims, but I checked the rims and they're not bent at all (thank god). I'm going to go ahead and remove the Tyre Beads and put in solid-core airsoft bb's and go from there. Due to the sporadic behavior of the "shaking", I fear that the beads are just too small and clumping. That's the only real explanation I can think of.... otherwise, it would be more consistent - at least, I would think so anyway.
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/112
One of the three primary causes are manufacturing. These are cheap cheap tires, so it wouldnt' surprise me if it's just poor quality tires that are doing it. At first I suspected bent rims, but I checked the rims and they're not bent at all (thank god). I'm going to go ahead and remove the Tyre Beads and put in solid-core airsoft bb's and go from there. Due to the sporadic behavior of the "shaking", I fear that the beads are just too small and clumping. That's the only real explanation I can think of.... otherwise, it would be more consistent - at least, I would think so anyway.