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I miss my carpet in the summer my feet get super hot
right, that’s why I left the carpet in the front.
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Homemade swing out on the stock bumper? Hope you brace it well. My oem swing out was sturdy with some minor bracing and 33s
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Homemade swing out on the stock bumper? Hope you brace it well. My oem swing out was sturdy with some minor bracing and 33s
I do plan on bracing it but I think most people’s problems come from a weak spindle and the latch not clamping down and supporting the other end. The spindle is obviously stout and it goes all the way through the top and bottom of the bumper. Plus im running stock tires which I think equal a 28”. So they aren’t all that heavy. I would have loved to have an oem one but they’re basically impossible to find.
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Originally Posted by 96whitecherokeeguy


I do plan on bracing it but I think most people’s problems come from a weak spindle and the latch not clamping down and supporting the other end. The spindle is obviously stout and it goes all the way through the top and bottom of the bumper. Plus im running stock tires which I think equal a 28”. So they aren’t all that heavy. I would have loved to have an oem one but they’re basically impossible to find.
I am going to be curious to see what you used for parts to accomplish this when you are done.
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I am going to be curious to see what you used for parts to accomplish this when you are done.
I’ll be sure to post pictures of the entire build once it’s competed, supposed to weld it all up tomorrow.
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I think you're going to have an issue with the bumper flexing supporting even the weight of a stock tire.

I like the idea though and would love to have a way to put a swing out tire carrier on my XJ's stock bumper to free up interior space.
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Originally Posted by downs
I think you're going to have an issue with the bumper flexing supporting even the weight of a stock tire.

I like the idea though and would love to have a way to put a swing out tire carrier on my XJ's stock bumper to free up interior space.
I thought that at first too but other people have done it and run 33s so I think it will be fine, time will tell.
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Who has done it? Links or pictures to support. Detour's made a product that used the bumper as a skin but was a completely built in unit.
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I'm really liking the build!

The swing out tire carrier will not work when attached to the bumper alone.
It's not necessarily the bumper skin that is weak, but the mounts. The vibration and stress over time is going to weaken and snap the bumper mounts. This is not an assumption it is a fact. The bumper will come off and take the tire with it.

I'm personally asking that you add more anchor points and / or strengthen the inner structure.

If we aren't smart about our on-road modifications then we are all going to have to start putting our cars through engineering inspections like they do in Australia.

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Who has done it? Links or pictures to support. Detour's made a product that used the bumper as a skin but was a completely built in unit.
I don’t remember where I saw it, one was on YouTube someone made one with the stick bumper but I don’t remember the size tire he ran. I’ve seen a couple others on some Jeep forums but I don’t remember which ones. If I find them I’ll share them.
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Originally Posted by craigjacob1
I'm really liking the build!

The swing out tire carrier will not work when attached to the bumper alone.
It's not necessarily the bumper skin that is weak, but the mounts. The vibration and stress over time is going to weaken and snap the bumper mounts. This is not an assumption it is a fact. The bumper will come off and take the tire with it.

I'm personally asking that you add more anchor points and / or strengthen the inner structure.

If we aren't smart about our on-road modifications then we are all going to have to start putting our cars through engineering inspections like they do in Australia.
thank you. And I appreciate the concern and suggestions, I will be beefing up the mounts. Like you said the skin shouldn’t be the problem and it won’t be able to flex since the spindle will go straight through the top and bottom of the bumper. I’ll eventually just make new beefy mounts that tie into the unibody on the inside (opposite of the trailer hitch) but for now I’m going to strengthen the existing mounts.
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Did you use the individual hook brackets, or I've seen one that was a full bracket that mounted both hooks (if that makes sense)
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Did you use the individual hook brackets, or I've seen one that was a full bracket that mounted both hooks (if that makes sense)
That does make sense, I used the individual brackets for the front tow hooks from Tomken.
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For a long time I wanted a swing out tire carrier for my Jeep. But paying full price for one isn’t something I’m all about so I decided to try to make one using the stock bumper. Here’s how it went:

If you saw the roof rack build (farther up in the thread) you know I made it to keep the spare tire up there. This was never an ideal situation and when I saw an opportunity to make a swing out on the bumper for pretty cheap I decided that would be a better option. I of corse will be keeping the rack since I use it a lot and I like having that functionality available. So on to the swing out build. I started with careful planning and design. I consulted a welder friend of mine and had him look at the bumper and consider my ideas to see if he thought it would work from a strength standpoint. He was confident we could make it happen and so I went ahead and designed the carrier. I took some measurements and figured out how it should look. I decided on 1 1/2” square tubing with 1/8” wall. I wanted to keep it as small and light as I could but still able to handle the weight. I drew it up in a 3D program called sketchup to help visualize it and easily figure out cut angles. For the spindle I went with ruff stuffs tire carrier spindle. It’s 1 1/2” spindle with bearings and an outer sleeve of 2 1/4”. It’s pretty beefy. I ordered the tube and a latch and bought some bolts for the wheel studs. The guy who was going to weld it for me said he had plenty of steel plate we could use. With all the planning done and the supplies ordered, I got to work. I got a 1 1/2” hole saw and put 2 holes through the bumper where the spindle would go through.


Then I worked on cutting and putting together the pieces for the swing out. Since the bumper and the hatch on the Jeep aren’t straight, I had to make it so that it bumped out in the middle and came back in on the ends. Here’s a picture of the bottom arm.

The piece that meets up with the spindle was notched with a 2 1/4” hole saw. Then I just built the upright structure, the supports and the horizontal piece for the wheel. Here’s a picture of it all laid out (it’s not exactly right because I couldn’t actually lay it out the way it was supposed to go since it wasn’t welded together yet, hopefully you understand what I mean).


After that it was time to weld it all together and put everything on the Jeep. I took it to my friends shop where we (he) first welded the spindle to the bumper. (Like a good friend I grinded all paint and rust off the tube and bumper the night before).


As you welders will recognize this was all tig welded. Next we put together the swing out structure and made a plate for the spare tire studs. This took the most time since there were quite a few cuts and 4 sides to be welded on each cut. Plus there were a couple places where we closed the end of the tubing with more steel plate.


Next we tacked the structure to the spindle (after getting it level), finished welding it, welded a closed piece of tube to the opposite side of the bumper for the arm to sit on, welded the latch components on, and it was done.

I had made a bit of a mistake because when we fitted everything up I hadn’t completely tightened the bumper up so when I did it pulled it in just enough so the carrier was now touching the hatch in 2 places. I wanted to keep everything nice and close to the Jeep so it didn’t take much for it to touch. I remedied this by using a washer as a spacer between the bumper and the bumper bracket. Now there’s plenty of room. However since it was level before the washers did cause it to tilt back a slight bit which might be noticeable in the pictures. Anyway after that all that was left to do was paint it and the bumper and cut out the bumper end caps. Here’s how that all turned out.





And that was it, one thing to mention that I didn’t get pictures was I gave my friend the bumper brackets and he beefed them up with extra metal and bigger bolts (I’ve you’ve ever seen your bumper brackets you’ll know what I’m talking about). There’s no sag or flex in the bumper when you open it and only a tiny bit if you move it by hand when it’s fully open. Also the style of latch I used means it pulls the swing out tight against the tube that it rests on so it can’t rattle or wiggle and it takes stress off of the spindle side. I’m really happy with how it turned out and how it looks. I’m also glad to get the spare off the roof rack. I never noticed a huge drop in mpg with it up there but I know there had to be some and just knowing that wasn’t something I was thrilled about. I still have to put in the license plate light which I will just run off of the existing power wire for the light in the hatch. Here’s some pictures of the final product.





Hopefully this gave someone and idea of how to make their own. I didn’t calculate the price but it’s well under 200$. Which I think is pretty good. I hope you guys have enjoyed this post and this entire build thread so far. Merry Christmas guys.

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