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Haven't been in this thread in awhile but your recent post in the LCOG thread got me over here quick. Rig looks awesome. Are those the F250 shock towers? I'm getting ready to rework my rear end and was considering using those. You happy with the setup? What length travel shocks? Have you/are you going to seal them up?
Edit: Nevermind, I got unlazy and looked farther back to get most of my questions answered. Carry on!
Ha thank you very much. My instagram is @meisenberger93 for more frequent posts.
I haven't seal the towers up and they haven't thrown much mud/water into the cab surprisingly even when I buried the end down to the bumper in mud last trip. I did seal the rear inner wells very well with outdoor sealer and lots of tacks to hold it all together. Right now I'm running 12.5/11" shocks front and rear. I have a pair of 13.4" bilstein shocks for the front but my single rate coils don't have enough drop to really let me use them without the coil falling down half the tower, metalcloaks are in the list of future buys. I just got in the mail some dirtbound u-bolt plates with bumpstop extensions that I will make taller shock mounts to make up for the shorter shock plus get the bolt out of the way of the u-bolt nuts. I should be wheeling in a couple weeks to test the new setup out.
Thanks. I'd like to have a hybrid cage built one day with rear bench access. Blake and Kevin built a interior roll cage for their 2 door on the Hoonigan budget build off with a single harness seat in the back and access to it between the front seats.
Right now I'm running 12.5/11" shocks front and rear. I have a pair of 13.4" bilstein shocks for the front but my single rate coils don't have enough drop to really let me use them without the coil falling down half the tower, metalcloaks are in the list of future buys.
That's a fair amount of travel for stock width axles at your ride height. What's limiting up travel in the front? Any intention of doing high clearance inner fenders?
I just got some IRO 3.5" leafs and Clayton shackles, and am preparing to rework my rear suspension. The plan right now is to strip the leaf packs down to 1 leaf and cut out everything that prevents the tire from stuffing at full flex when the leaf is flat. Will measure for shocks and bumpstops while doing that. Looking to utilize all the travel I can. I'm curious to see how much I'll get out of it.
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
I just got in the mail some dirtbound u-bolt plates with bumpstop extensions that I will make taller shock mounts to make up for the shorter shock plus get the bolt out of the way of the u-bolt nuts.
I've had the Dirtbound u-bolt plates and bumpstops for awhile. I like the setup, but have actually bent the plates over time from hitting the bumps. I'd recommend building a brace under the overhang of the u-bolt plate to support the bumpstop down to the axle tube.
That's a fair amount of travel for stock width axles at your ride height. What's limiting up travel in the front? Any intention of doing high clearance inner fenders?
I just got some IRO 3.5" leafs and Clayton shackles, and am preparing to rework my rear suspension. The plan right now is to strip the leaf packs down to 1 leaf and cut out everything that prevents the tire from stuffing at full flex when the leaf is flat. Will measure for shocks and bumpstops while doing that. Looking to utilize all the travel I can. I'm curious to see how much I'll get out of it.
I've had the Dirtbound u-bolt plates and bumpstops for awhile. I like the setup, but have actually bent the plates over time from hitting the bumps. I'd recommend building a brace under the overhang of the u-bolt plate to support the bumpstop down to the axle tube.
Good to know on the U-Bolt plates. My limit up front for up travel is the tire digging into the front of the well at full turn behind the light, so high clearance inner wells won't help. I bumpstopped it so I can turn without any issues anywhere. I'm not looking for a lot of up travel, i crawl so drop is more important to me. I'm looking forward to how yours turns out. I should have more travel than I did with short arms and 35s. How do you like those Clayton shackles with the Giiro bushings?
I had to cut and flip the passenger side plate where they bent the ends out. The plates are all cut the same so that the shocks will clear in stock locations. With the stretch and shocks on the towers I flipped the ends around so the bumpstop plates face forward and will have more contact with the bumpstop. Leaving them as is would leave less than 1/2 bumpstop contact on the passenger side. Also here's the new WJ steering setup.
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...tire digging into the front of the well... ...high clearance inner wells won't help.
Sounds like they would to me? LOL Mine rubs on the inner well at the spot just under the PCM/battery tray area, right at the farthest little corner that juts out. I "clearanced" those spots a bit with a sledgehammer, but that's the limit. Last night I found a rot hole under my battery tray. Maybe inner wells are in my future. I also rub on the coil mounts, so really the only thing I can do is go wider.
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
I bumpstopped it so I can turn without any issues anywhere. I'm not looking for a lot of up travel, i crawl so drop is more important to me.
Definitely the way to do it by bumpstopping at full stuff/full cut in both directions. I still rub, but only on flat sheet metal. It wears the paint off, but at least my tires aren't getting cut up. I have this vision of stuffing the tires as high up as realistically possible to keep the rig low with big tires. I figure if I cut out all the low hanging fruit of clearance I should be able to achieve 3-4.5" lift on 35's with great travel and no rubbing.
You're factory width Dana 30 with 2.5" backspacing, right? Right now I'm Dana 30 with 3.5-4" backspacing.
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
I'm looking forward to how yours turns out. How do you like those Clayton shackles with the Giiro bushings?
Just put the Jeep on stands for last night and started to picture what I want to do. I'm envisioning this will turn into another rabbit hole of a project...
The shackles are still in boxes, so I can't really speak for them. First impression is great though, and they sent me multiple stickers/decals and two cozies!
The shackles are still in boxes, so I can't really speak for them. First impression is great though, and they sent me multiple stickers/decals and two cozies!
It's more or less the isuse of the tires wanting to dig into the crossmember where the headlights mount behind the bumper than the inner wells. I'm pretty wide, enough that half the tire is past the fenders. I ran 35s on 4"s with 12.5/11" of shock travel for 2 years locked front and rear with no issues and keeping up with buddy's on tons.
Funny you say that about clayton, my 3 link from them was missing a inner giiro sleeve and they found one and mailed it to me for just the cost of the shipping and gave me the same stuff!
It's more or less the isuse of the tires wanting to dig into the crossmember where the headlights mount behind the bumper than the inner wells. I'm pretty wide, enough that half the tire is past the fenders.
I was thinking about this the other day. It makes sense to me that your tire would get into stuff all the way up there before interfering in other places because you run low backspaced wheels that give you a large scrub radius. I bet you wouldn't interfere there if you went for a wider axle with greater backspaced wheels to reduce your scrub radius while keeping the width. That's kinda my plan. Full width Dana 44 (~64" WMS) with as close to OEM backspacing as I can.
Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb
Funny you say that about clayton, my 3 link from them was missing a inner giiro sleeve and they found one and mailed it to me for just the cost of the shipping and gave me the same stuff!
I was thinking about this the other day. It makes sense to me that your tire would get into stuff all the way up there before interfering in other places because you run low backspaced wheels that give you a large scrub radius. I bet you wouldn't interfere there if you went for a wider axle with greater backspaced wheels to reduce your scrub radius while keeping the width. That's kinda my plan. Full width Dana 44 (~64" WMS) with as close to OEM backspacing as I can.
That's the true sign of a great parts company LOL
If you want to chat more instagram and facebook are my fastest responses lol. But yea, well these beadlocks make up compared to another non beadlock or diy wheel. Took it out and hit 55 today without an alignment and had no issues. Lifting the 37" spare was a fight, had to use the jack to help get it off the ground.
Went to AOAA with some friends today. Ran blues and blacks over snow and thick ice on every part of the trails. I need to add a hockey puck on all 4 corners and learn what psi these tires really like because 8psi wasn't enough in this stuff! But overall I'm very happy with the jeep and my welds holding up. Not too bad, metalcloak coils and maybe clayton shackles will be better. My buddy's XJ on 35s and 5.5"s of lift and cavfab 3 link.
Ordered 4.5" metalcloak coils today. They had a valentine's day sale. I also got Clayton shackles in the mail the other day I'm looking forward to some more lift and flex. If you don't know, these shackle bushings allow for somewhere around 30 degrees of flex, similar to a johnny joint but better road manners than the boostwerks shackles.
Ordered 4.5" metalcloak coils today. They had a valentine's day sale. I also got Clayton shackles in the mail the other day I'm looking forward to some more lift and flex. If you don't know, these shackle bushings allow for somewhere around 30 degrees of flex, similar to a johnny joint but better road manners than the boostwerks shackles.
Nice! I just got my shackles and have been playing with the rear suspension. I'll be curious to see how those Metalcloaks do. I've been thinking about what I want to do for springs on the front and if I can justify coilovers. Those coils look like one of the best non-coilover options on the market.
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