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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Killallblue
So who wants to come and help install the lift on my jeep in a few weeks
Let me know a week or two ahead and ill be there.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
What issues are you having Tim? I missed it...
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'88 Renix Jeep Comanche, automatic

Backfires at certain RPMs (no tach, but always same RPM range), regardless of what gear it's in. Fairly new O2, dizzy, cap, rotor, plugs

Just patched exhaust and made it longer. Still sputters and backfires, but at a lower RPM range.

Jeep occasionally feels like it's jumping forward and backward (not wobble) if holding throttle at the edge of that RPM range. Recently, RPMs will quickly jump, drop, and steady when shifting to overdrive at moderate acceleration.

New TPS.

Suggestions?
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Oh, Jimmy.. Also since I replaced TPS and did exhaust (was same day), I can't hold steady ~40-60% throttle on the highway or it will slowly lose forward momentum and then rapidly decelerate like downshifting. After backfiring or stepping on the gas (no shift felt), it resumes normal operation.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Backfiring is caused by afterburn, fuel burning in the exhaust....

Unfortunately there are a few reasons this can happen, most often timing, which can't be adjusted on the 4.0.

Sometimes a sticky injector (stays open too long)
Sometimes a vaccum leak at the MAP sensor
Your Dizzy could have jumped a tooth....

Start with some FREE ****....

Clean out the C101 connector? It's mounted on the firewall up behind the brake booster. Almost every signal, if not all of them, for the fuel injection run through the C101.
Unbolt the two halves and clean out al the black tar crap. After that, use a small pick to thighten up the female connectors on the harness. Keep flushing it out with contact cleaner. Add some dielectric grease and bolt it back together. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WOULD DO FIRST!

Next...get the MAP sensor tested.

Test your injectors...

If none of this...find another similar year Renix and swap ECU's and see if that helps...they control the timing, and can slowly fade.


With YOUR symptoms, the only sensor I would suspect is MAP...but stop throwing money at it until you know. Get it tested...check your injectors...but FIRST the C101!
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Anyone want to come help me at Grimms junkyard this weekend? Need to jack up a couple Blazers to get the 231C shifter brackets off.....
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by a_shirey
Let me know a week or two ahead and ill be there.
I will
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
Backfiring is caused by afterburn, fuel burning in the exhaust....

Unfortunately there are a few reasons this can happen, most often timing, which can't be adjusted on the 4.0.

Sometimes a sticky injector (stays open too long)
Sometimes a vaccum leak at the MAP sensor
Your Dizzy could have jumped a tooth....

Start with some FREE ****....

Clean out the C101 connector? It's mounted on the firewall up behind the brake booster. Almost every signal, if not all of them, for the fuel injection run through the C101.
Unbolt the two halves and clean out al the black tar crap. After that, use a small pick to thighten up the female connectors on the harness. Keep flushing it out with contact cleaner. Add some dielectric grease and bolt it back together. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WOULD DO FIRST!

Next...get the MAP sensor tested.

Test your injectors...

If none of this...find another similar year Renix and swap ECU's and see if that helps...they control the timing, and can slowly fade.
I cleaned up the C101 when I got it. Justin suggested the MAP along with new exhaust and maybe replace the O2 I may have burned up. I replaced my TPS cause it couldn't be adjusted into tolerance anyway, and someone told me they had similar problems cased by their CPS. Considering the CPS is the source of most of our problems, and it took almost 10 seconds of cranking to get her going this morning, I have no problem replacing the factory-original sensor.

Injectors are on my maintenance list. I'll start pricing MAP sensors.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
Anyone want to come help me at Grimms junkyard this weekend? Need to jack up a couple Blazers to get the 231C shifter brackets off.....
I wanna go back and steal the bumper, taillights, and tailgate from the Comanche. Looks like I might be around this weekend after all.

Hear that, Scott?
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I wanna go back and steal the bumper, taillights, and tailgate from the Comanche. Looks like I might be around this weekend after all.

Hear that, Scott?

Well...help each other?
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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You know what would be nice....JY time, then Beer time....but I may have to work Saturday night....won't know till Friday.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
Well...help each other?
Sounds like a plan. Also, where can I get the MAP tested? Advance?

Edit: Nevermind, I looked it up. You said to have it tested, so I figured it took more than a multimeter lol

Last edited by NewKindOfClown; Jan 23, 2013 at 05:13 PM.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Sounds like a plan. Also, where can I get the MAP tested? Advance?

I BELIEVE they can......since I have not OWNED a Renix....hard for me to say with any certainty. The FSM should have some readings for it...if you have or can borrow a multimeter.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
I BELIEVE they can......since I have not OWNED a Renix....hard for me to say with any certainty. The FSM should have some readings for it...if you have or can borrow a multimeter.
lunghd had the info. See my edit above
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

I wanna go back and steal the bumper, taillights, and tailgate from the Comanche. Looks like I might be around this weekend after all.

Hear that, Scott?
Let me know if you want to tag, be glad to have you. Text me.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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MDWolvie....been a year and a half...ok...six months....chat with us homie...
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