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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fritzthekatt
Full sye

Went to eastern Off Road here in Norfolk. They just built a manche with ruby axles and a 8in BDS long arm kit and had this wicked k5 on 1tons with 800hp. Anyways if you ever in the area they are worth checking out


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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Opinions/input on the IRO D30 truss? It's expensive, but they list a lot of improvements in front suspension and geometry. Worth it for 35s on a 2" lift, paired with their bent LCAs for more clearance and a DS track bar for less binding?

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFX

I think there are other options available that may be cheaper and easier...not requiring the spring perches to be redone....check out this one:

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...XJ_p_1748.html
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669

I think there are other options available that may be cheaper and easier...not requiring the spring perches to be redone....check out this one:

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...XJ_p_1748.html
Thanks, I hadn't seen Ballistic's. The only reason I considered the IRO one at that price is all the secondary advantages they claim with their design. Would you say it's overrated, not a big enough cost to benefit ratio, or simply not needed for my application?

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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Thanks, I hadn't seen Ballistic's. The only reason I considered the IRO one at that price is all the secondary advantages they claim with their design. Would you say it's overrated, not a big enough cost to benefit ratio, or simply not needed for my application?

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It is a lot beefier....but unnecessarily so. It also includes a lot of other parts integrated like the c gussets.

BUT...lets say you wanted to replace EVERYTHING.

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...XJ_p_1748.html

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...XJ_p_1748.html

You are only at $200.

If you want the c-gussets, I assume you will have someone (Like Oliver) weld this on? C-Gussets are easy peasy to make. (I have questioned in the past whether heating the cast steel can actually weaken it?)

This too, with slight modification, will let you keep the upper mounts stock.

Question though....do you plan on keeping the vacuum disco Dana 30?


You could also buy the tube sleeves for the Dana 30....still be under $300.

The point is...the week points on a Dana 30 will still exist no matter how much you build up the housing. Yes...building the housing helps, but you will always find the weak points (Shafts, u-joints, carrier).

If you want stronger....the dana 44...BUT....still uses the same u-joints.

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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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For the record....I am now of the mindset, at least for now, since i will be running 33's...keep the axles as stock as I can....replacement parts will be that much easier and cheaper to find. And I can stock up on shafts/bearings/u-joints to carry with me.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gone4x4
hold on tight this mornin Mark!
It was a freezing morning. 4 hrs of rest and i'll be right back at it. Oh yeah...... The fambily will be eating tonight! 2 down. Lots to go!
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 96xjclassic
It was a freezing morning. 4 hrs of rest and i'll be right back at it. Oh yeah...... The fambily will be eating tonight! 2 down. Lots to go!


Sweet dude!!!
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Thanks, Jimmy. Good info. As for vac disco, I'm using a Posi cable right now, and I bought Yella's HP30 to swap in.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 96xjclassic

It was a freezing morning. 4 hrs of rest and i'll be right back at it. Oh yeah...... The fambily will be eating tonight! 2 down. Lots to go!
Nice job, man.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Thanks, Jimmy. Good info. As for vac disco, I'm using a Posi cable right now, and I bought Yella's HP30 to swap in.
I call dibs on cable when you swap
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
For the record....I am now of the mindset, at least for now, since i will be running 33's...keep the axles as stock as I can....replacement parts will be that much easier and cheaper to find. And I can stock up on shafts/bearings/u-joints to carry with me.
thats how i plan on going with my xj. the only changes i want to do with the axles is lockers And gearing, the rest i want to keep stock.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
People....i don't need votes....I need reasons....lol
IMO people choose hnt cause its a cheap shortcut to fixing the problem. For my build I didn't want to cut any corners or have the tc fail because I wanted to save a few dollars. To each his own but I feel the better, stronger, long term solution is full sye.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fritzthekatt

IMO people choose hnt cause its a cheap shortcut to fixing the problem. For my build I didn't want to cut any corners or have the tc fail because I wanted to save a few dollars. To each his own but I feel the better, stronger, long term solution is full sye.
I agree that it is inherently stronger, and I would do a full SYE if I needed one at all. However, I do think a HnT is sufficient for what most of us do.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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I have decided to go full....

The HnT is $100....the bit and tap another $20....

I can get a full SYE with HD output for $150....what's $30 more dollars?
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy21669
I have decided to go full....

The HnT is $100....the bit and tap another $20....

I can get a full SYE with HD output for $150....what's $30 more dollars?
2+2=5 so yes
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