Maryland Cherokee Club
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From: Linthicum, Md
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1987 4.0L (242 CID) I6 RENIX FI 242 173 hp (129 kW) @ 4600 rpm, 224 lb•ft (304 N-m) @ 4000RPM
i got my ok from md for my flashers
i dont think i need all 30a, rather round up for safety than down and blow something
but i dont think im going to find one that is 23a specific or something like that lol
Very cool
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From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
who wants some moabsssss (pretty sure they are anyways) $200
http://richmond.craigslist.org/pts/2699472245.html
http://richmond.craigslist.org/pts/2699472245.html
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From: Elkton, Maryland
Year: 1998
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I dont want to lecture you cause your a grown ***** man, but think carefully about these decisions before you do it.
This is a big boy, get your feelings hurt game we play with our Jeeps.
You almost couldnt get your Jeep taken care of without help the last time it broke down.
What happens when you break something major in a different state? how are you going to take care of it then?
i know very few people that go to RC and can come back with nothing broken..
Even stock guys that play on the baby trails break stuff.
I had a friend, whose built up with more than $5K invested in their rig; everything from axles to armor, lose 2 brand new 35" tires while going down a baby trail at RC, that leads to the harder stuff. and he only brought 1 spare tire...
even if you were able to split gas costs for someone to trailer your rig, they would also have to trailer their rig, i dont know anyone that has a double trailer. cause none of our jeeps are rated for towing another jeep on a trailer. and anyone who is towing is going to be using something big like a f250 or a diesel, so by the time you split the gas for that, you might as well drive it.
by the time you spend all your money on food, camping, gas (250+ miles round trip + gas for wheeling) & membership - your not gonna have anything left to fix anything you break..
you have to be prepared to spend a lil more than a hundred bucks for the weekend, and thats just to play, for one day.
think about it, if you wheel a lil too hard & blow a motor or break a line or lose a wheel or something, what are you going to do?
You have to have money to get it home.. thats when you need to have an extra couple hundred laying around as just in case.
if you cant dedicated at least $300-400 for the weekend (even if you dont end up using it), then you shouldnt be playing.
That goes for anytime you go play, not just at RC.
Take me for example, i went and played on the farm and i gots a lift, under armor and bigger tires.
I broke my steering in 3 different places and had to get a wheel re-balanced when i got home.
and i did everything that clown did, and less. and i came out hurt and he didnt. and he has less than i have on my rig.
so now i have to spend an extra $100+ to fix these things.
after looking at it in the air, i saw that if i didnt have that lift & armor i woulda been screwed i could of lost my whole gas tank, and thats about $200+ right there..
And this is mostly playing in mud and a very small "stock" level rock garden.
What happens when you go to RC that has bigger rocks for the "stock" people?
If i remember right your sitting at negative to no lift and stock type tires. no upgrades from steering & tires to axles & armor.
Your need to make sure your engine is running strong; check all your fluids are good in the axles, tc, engine & tranny; then add a small lift and something a lil bigger on the wheels and maybe some skid armor protection before you go out there.
once you get used to that set up then you can look at going out and playing. because lifting a vehicle and changing the meat you roll on changes the way your vehicle drives & handles. you have to know your vehicle very well to wheel.
Just because you lift a vehicle doesnt mean you can just jump out any trail you want, you still have to consider your experience level. Which means even if you were to do a lift & tires, better than stock, you would still want to stay on the baby side for a day or a trip.
RC is mostly rocks and bumps, little mud. So you cant just go play in the dirt. With Rocks comes the (very big) potential to break stuff. Breaking stuff means you have to spend more money to fix stuff.
This is a big boy, get your feelings hurt game we play with our Jeeps.
You almost couldnt get your Jeep taken care of without help the last time it broke down.
What happens when you break something major in a different state? how are you going to take care of it then?
i know very few people that go to RC and can come back with nothing broken..
Even stock guys that play on the baby trails break stuff.
I had a friend, whose built up with more than $5K invested in their rig; everything from axles to armor, lose 2 brand new 35" tires while going down a baby trail at RC, that leads to the harder stuff. and he only brought 1 spare tire...
even if you were able to split gas costs for someone to trailer your rig, they would also have to trailer their rig, i dont know anyone that has a double trailer. cause none of our jeeps are rated for towing another jeep on a trailer. and anyone who is towing is going to be using something big like a f250 or a diesel, so by the time you split the gas for that, you might as well drive it.
by the time you spend all your money on food, camping, gas (250+ miles round trip + gas for wheeling) & membership - your not gonna have anything left to fix anything you break..
you have to be prepared to spend a lil more than a hundred bucks for the weekend, and thats just to play, for one day.
think about it, if you wheel a lil too hard & blow a motor or break a line or lose a wheel or something, what are you going to do?
You have to have money to get it home.. thats when you need to have an extra couple hundred laying around as just in case.
if you cant dedicated at least $300-400 for the weekend (even if you dont end up using it), then you shouldnt be playing.
That goes for anytime you go play, not just at RC.
Take me for example, i went and played on the farm and i gots a lift, under armor and bigger tires.
I broke my steering in 3 different places and had to get a wheel re-balanced when i got home.
and i did everything that clown did, and less. and i came out hurt and he didnt. and he has less than i have on my rig.
so now i have to spend an extra $100+ to fix these things.
after looking at it in the air, i saw that if i didnt have that lift & armor i woulda been screwed i could of lost my whole gas tank, and thats about $200+ right there..
And this is mostly playing in mud and a very small "stock" level rock garden.
What happens when you go to RC that has bigger rocks for the "stock" people?
If i remember right your sitting at negative to no lift and stock type tires. no upgrades from steering & tires to axles & armor.
Your need to make sure your engine is running strong; check all your fluids are good in the axles, tc, engine & tranny; then add a small lift and something a lil bigger on the wheels and maybe some skid armor protection before you go out there.
once you get used to that set up then you can look at going out and playing. because lifting a vehicle and changing the meat you roll on changes the way your vehicle drives & handles. you have to know your vehicle very well to wheel.
Just because you lift a vehicle doesnt mean you can just jump out any trail you want, you still have to consider your experience level. Which means even if you were to do a lift & tires, better than stock, you would still want to stay on the baby side for a day or a trip.
RC is mostly rocks and bumps, little mud. So you cant just go play in the dirt. With Rocks comes the (very big) potential to break stuff. Breaking stuff means you have to spend more money to fix stuff.
Happened less than an hour on the trail to 2 jeeps. Not counting broken mirrors, glass, bent tie rod and a tailgate.
Just because the trail is rated "green" doesn't mean that it is easy. Depending on weather conditions, that trail could turn into a blue or blue-black real fast. On the same note, a harder trail could be easier. I went up with 8" of snow on the ground and was running blue-blacks with the guys I was with. Was my jeep at the time built for that, no. Would I run them now with the upgrades I have done, probably. Would I break? More than likely yes.
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From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
without quoting that immense post, this is my response:
i stand a damn good chance of going to prison for the next 10+ years thanks to my ******* landlord filing bogus charges. i have no good way to fight them, so im probably royally screwed. assuming i dont end up going to jail after my preliminary hearing on 12/09, then i want to wheel at least once before my actual trial...cuz if i lose, i wont have a chance to wheel for a hell of a long time...i might even lose Anya. I'd rather lose her driving her than lose her cuz im locked up. know what i mean?
i stand a damn good chance of going to prison for the next 10+ years thanks to my ******* landlord filing bogus charges. i have no good way to fight them, so im probably royally screwed. assuming i dont end up going to jail after my preliminary hearing on 12/09, then i want to wheel at least once before my actual trial...cuz if i lose, i wont have a chance to wheel for a hell of a long time...i might even lose Anya. I'd rather lose her driving her than lose her cuz im locked up. know what i mean?
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From: Linthicum, Md
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1987 4.0L (242 CID) I6 RENIX FI 242 173 hp (129 kW) @ 4600 rpm, 224 lb•ft (304 N-m) @ 4000RPM
without quoting that immense post, this is my response:
i stand a damn good chance of going to prison for the next 10+ years thanks to my ******* landlord filing bogus charges. i have no good way to fight them, so im probably royally screwed. assuming i dont end up going to jail after my preliminary hearing on 12/09, then i want to wheel at least once before my actual trial...cuz if i lose, i wont have a chance to wheel for a hell of a long time...i might even lose Anya. I'd rather lose her driving her than lose her cuz im locked up. know what i mean?
i stand a damn good chance of going to prison for the next 10+ years thanks to my ******* landlord filing bogus charges. i have no good way to fight them, so im probably royally screwed. assuming i dont end up going to jail after my preliminary hearing on 12/09, then i want to wheel at least once before my actual trial...cuz if i lose, i wont have a chance to wheel for a hell of a long time...i might even lose Anya. I'd rather lose her driving her than lose her cuz im locked up. know what i mean?
just one thing - what happens if you do tear it up and you dont end up in jail, hypothetically?
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From: Linthicum, Md
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1987 4.0L (242 CID) I6 RENIX FI 242 173 hp (129 kW) @ 4600 rpm, 224 lb•ft (304 N-m) @ 4000RPM
lol, maybe.. Not..
i had/have the ok in Virginia and Georgia and had em
but since i came to md i havent used them, so i got rid of the extra wires during another install..
and now im good in Md so now i want to wire em back in..
I never thought of cat cable, but that is totally doable.. too bad i sold my last 1000ft roll back in April.
i didnt do the original install, and didnt pay attention when pulling them out.
so now im winging it with guesstimates
i had/have the ok in Virginia and Georgia and had em
but since i came to md i havent used them, so i got rid of the extra wires during another install..
and now im good in Md so now i want to wire em back in..
i didnt do the original install, and didnt pay attention when pulling them out.
so now im winging it with guesstimates
Last edited by DocOrng XJ; Nov 14, 2011 at 10:16 PM.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
If I can help next time we're close, let me know. I think driving out just for that would be a bit much lol
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6
then ill more than likely have some more hefty repairs to do to her. but ill deal with them happily, knowing that id have the freedom to do so. its essentially do or die...my whole life has been dull, boring, monotonous. i spent 90% of my teenage years in a dark living room chatting on the family computer...i didnt lose my virginity til a few months ago...and im 24 years old. if i go to prison for even 25 years, by the time i get out i wont have the endurance to do half the stuff i can now...if im even alive. people in my family die young...grandmother at 60, mother at 51...yeah, i gotta live while i can.
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From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=60
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=75
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From: Linthicum, Md
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1987 4.0L (242 CID) I6 RENIX FI 242 173 hp (129 kW) @ 4600 rpm, 224 lb•ft (304 N-m) @ 4000RPM
yea once I have enough electronics that need switches I'm doing switch/relay boxes ala FitchVA
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=60
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=75
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=60
http://fitchva.com/jeep/?p=75
totally blows my idea of how i wanted to wire up right out of the water...
ive done a few before but, the parts were provided..
though if your nice, i might let you play with the lights and pa system next time.
Last edited by DocOrng XJ; Nov 14, 2011 at 10:36 PM.
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From: Elkton, Maryland
Year: 1998
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I have the patience of a monk and the vigilance of a hawk...
kah-kaw!
Pulltabmike I'm gonna need your welding expertise one day coming up. The trackbar mount I picked up is a drop mount, so I need to cut some material off at the top and re-weld it. I will never need a dropped trackbar...
kah-kaw!
Pulltabmike I'm gonna need your welding expertise one day coming up. The trackbar mount I picked up is a drop mount, so I need to cut some material off at the top and re-weld it. I will never need a dropped trackbar...
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From: Elkton, Maryland
Year: 1998
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Anybody on here know anyone running a dual alternator setup? Plan on a DIY onboard welder and using the AC compressor for onboard air. Just trying to figure out where to mount the second alternator
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Originally Posted by pulltabmike
Anybody on here know anyone running a dual alternator setup? Plan on a DIY onboard welder and using the AC compressor for onboard air. Just trying to figure out where to mount the second alternator