Who is the cherokee troubleshooting king?
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
scanner probs there is a write up ive read about some scanners not working on xjs did you try the key on key off if it appls to your year
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
I sounds like it could be a bad coolant temp sensor that is telling the PCM the engine is cold and to add more fuel. The only way to tell is to use a scan tool, not a code reader, and monitor the live data stream watching the CTS and have an infared temp gun handy so you can compare the CTS reading and the temp gun reading. A bad CTS will not always set a code, so it can get very confusing to diagnose if you're not sure how the sensors work and relay info to the PCM.
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From: ohio
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 i 6
Originally Posted by FrankZ
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Why?
After 5 minutes from a cold start the engine should reach normal opperating temperture and switch from Open Loop mode to Closed Loop. O2 sensors are not monitered during Open loop Mode.
Check your O2 fuse in the junction box.
Why?
After 5 minutes from a cold start the engine should reach normal opperating temperture and switch from Open Loop mode to Closed Loop. O2 sensors are not monitered during Open loop Mode.
Check your O2 fuse in the junction box.
Anything ever come of this? I also have a 99 4.0L, and I am having the same problem. Except my IS throwing CELs, for O2, repeatedly & the MAP sensor once. Also, the 15 AMP downstream O2 fuse has blown, repeatedly.
I've replaced both O2s, MAP, TPS. Checked for vacuum leaks. Replaced cap, rotor, plugs, wires. Cleaned the throttle body, ran seafoam through the intake and the gas tank. Cleared the CEL after each, came back on after a bit of driving.
Someone mentioned a CTS, and how to test it, which I haven't tried yet, so I'll look into that. Buddy of mine has a scanner & IR temp gun I can use.
Someone else mentioned the cat being clogged. That's about what it 'feels' like to me, would also explain the O2 fuse. Is there a definitive way to test this?
Been a member of the forum for a while now, done lots of reading, but this is the first I've posted, so be gentle if I f'd something up. Read several threads with similar issues, but most without conclusion.
I've replaced both O2s, MAP, TPS. Checked for vacuum leaks. Replaced cap, rotor, plugs, wires. Cleaned the throttle body, ran seafoam through the intake and the gas tank. Cleared the CEL after each, came back on after a bit of driving.
Someone mentioned a CTS, and how to test it, which I haven't tried yet, so I'll look into that. Buddy of mine has a scanner & IR temp gun I can use.
Someone else mentioned the cat being clogged. That's about what it 'feels' like to me, would also explain the O2 fuse. Is there a definitive way to test this?
Been a member of the forum for a while now, done lots of reading, but this is the first I've posted, so be gentle if I f'd something up. Read several threads with similar issues, but most without conclusion.
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From: Hanover,Ont, Canada
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.o
Just thought i'd chime in...I had a similar problem, turns out the harness side of the upstream o2 sensor connector was corroded. Took connector apart cleaned and it hasn't skipped a beat in a year. Also it never turned a cel. chased it for a month, driving with scanners, fuel pressure guages etc.
Good luck
Good luck
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From: McCall,Idaho
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L high output with compressed valves
check to see if your distributor is tight....press down on the distributor cap while it is running and see if it stops runnin crappy
Just thought i'd chime in...I had a similar problem, turns out the harness side of the upstream o2 sensor connector was corroded. Took connector apart cleaned and it hasn't skipped a beat in a year. Also it never turned a cel. chased it for a month, driving with scanners, fuel pressure guages etc.
Good luck
Good luck
I think I've narrowed it to one of three things; The fuel filter/pressure regulator, the coil, or the PCM. I've only owned the Jeep for about 6 months, and I'm not sure if the fuel filter has ever been changed, figure I'll start there, 'cause she probably needs it anyway.
Still I appreciate the input. If I figure it out, I'll let you know what it was. If not, I'll be back to ask for help, lol. Thanks guys!
Off to drop the tank . . .
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From: Wilmington, NC
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Find the short/cut/burn in your O2 wiring.
No it wouldn't. The fuse is on the sensor's heater circuit - not it's sensor circuit. It won't blow that fuse unless there is a short to ground - or the heater in the sensor is shorted.
Backpressure test
Backpressure test
Last edited by Evil Drew M; Aug 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM.
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From: Wilmington, NC
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Possible - they can do flakey things once they heat up.
Last resort - very expensive to "try"
I've seen situations where dirt was being sucked into the pump/filter and causing a restriction. When the restriction caused the pressure to drop enough the dirt would backflow. Once the pressure built up again in came the dirt. Rinse lather repeat.
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
A really easy check:
There is a gang of wires coming up the front of the engine that run up around the manifold heat shield to the injectors. (at least there is on my 90). The edge of that shield can cut into those wires, sometimes causing all sorts of trouble. Mine would go a week without a problem, was pretty tough to find.
There is a gang of wires coming up the front of the engine that run up around the manifold heat shield to the injectors. (at least there is on my 90). The edge of that shield can cut into those wires, sometimes causing all sorts of trouble. Mine would go a week without a problem, was pretty tough to find.



