Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Where is the Temp Guage Suppost to stay

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 03:47 AM
  #1  
joshua.alexander's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Down Under
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Question Where is the Temp Guage Suppost to stay

Hey guys, i dont have an over heating problem, i just dont no where the temp guage is suppost to sit, i drive it around town and it stays under a quarter, when i am running long distance it will run just at or a tiny bit above a quarter and during idle - it will move to the centre , possibly further,(turned my car off before it did, if it did), any thoughts or opinions
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 04:54 AM
  #2  
Crimmy's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 381
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
Year: 89
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
Default

I did have an overheating problem. Radiator was clogged and it had no thermostat in it. But i put one in got the clog undone. The highest it ever gets it to the center point 200-220 And ive got a 160 degree thermostat in there so it might be different than yours.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:35 AM
  #3  
Bustedback's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12,367
Likes: 23
From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
Default

210 is where mine is most of the time in traffic, a little cooler once I'm rolling.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:38 AM
  #4  
Diesel's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,112
Likes: 4
From: Wantage, NJ
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

160-225 is safe.

Mine is around 160-180 on highways and 210 stop and go traffic.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:15 AM
  #5  
djb383's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,172
Likes: 17
From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Default

Originally Posted by joshua.alexander
.......i drive it around town and it stays under a quarter.......
Something is not right....1/4 mark is +/-155F.....no way it will run that cool this time of year....bad gauge/sending unit/electrical connection, etc., etc......it's not functioning/displaying correctly.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:25 PM
  #6  
81Z4ME's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
From: Richmond, VA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter
Default

When I bought my 2000 Cherokee Sport I was amazed at how "hot" it was running. I'd never seen anything run 210 F all the time so I asked the salesman about it. He said they were designed to run that hot so they created less pollution. I don't know if he knew what he was talking about or not but it stays at 210 F winter/summer, traffic/highway. The electric fan kicks on/off to help the mechanical fan if it starts to go above 210 F.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:26 PM
  #7  
CAEMI's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 889
Likes: 2
From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

The engine is designed to run at 212 degrees all the time, winter or summer, traffic or highway. That is "operating temperature" and where all of the metal is expanded to "design clearances". It is also the temperature the oil is formulated for and it takes into consideration hotspots and cool spots throughout the structure and the difference between the temp of the coolant and the actual temp of, for example, a piston ring or valve seat. Your engine is at "operating temp" when it is soaked to the design temp. This usually takes 30 miles or so no matter what the weather. I believe whether it is 90 or 30 is only a 60 degree difference...and the piston rings might be 400 degrees. That 60 degree delta is a smallish fraction of 400.

Blah blah blah. I'll quit now before we all launch into another 200 post thread on thermostats.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:45 PM
  #8  
2Evil4U's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 849
Likes: 0
From: Slaughter, LA
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I think I've got another idea for the "Before you can buy an XJ" thread...
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:24 PM
  #9  
Wizeguy's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by joshua.alexander
Hey guys, i dont have an over heating problem, i just dont no where the temp guage is suppost to sit, i drive it around town and it stays under a quarter, when i am running long distance it will run just at or a tiny bit above a quarter and during idle - it will move to the centre , possibly further,(turned my car off before it did, if it did), any thoughts or opinions
Sounds a bit to me like you need to open up that thermostat housing and replace your fail-safe that has failed. Safe.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 02:27 PM
  #10  
djb383's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,172
Likes: 17
From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Default

I have never seen, not even once, in my many years, a vehicle that would constantly operate at 212F, winter or summer, traffic or highway, UNLESS, you are looking at the factory idiot gauge vs an accurate analog or digital or scan tool type aftermarket gauge. The XJ is no different. Even with a factory t-stat, the XJ (or any other vehicle) will run well below 212F in the dead of winter (heater on) and it will momentarily run well above 212F in summer time heat, a/c on, stop-n-go traffic, towing, etc., etc. To say coolant temp remains constant just isn't correct but the factory temp gauge will make u think so.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:17 PM
  #11  
rich's Avatar
Registered Users
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,371
Likes: 4
From: morrisonville ny
Year: 2000 @ 1994 givin away
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Mine sits on lower right hand side under oil gauge j/k 192-213 degrees every xj is differant.This is with a 192 degree tstat.

Last edited by rich; Sep 1, 2010 at 07:19 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:18 PM
  #12  
rich's Avatar
Registered Users
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,371
Likes: 4
From: morrisonville ny
Year: 2000 @ 1994 givin away
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by djb383
Something is not right....1/4 mark is +/-155F.....no way it will run that cool this time of year....bad gauge/sending unit/electrical connection, etc., etc......it's not functioning/displaying correctly.
He s maybe looking at the oil gauge
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2010 | 07:26 PM
  #13  
djb383's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,172
Likes: 17
From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Default

Originally Posted by rich
He s maybe looking at the oil gauge
......you're killin' me, especially your avatar.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:35 AM
  #14  
joshua.alexander's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Down Under
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by djb383
Something is not right....1/4 mark is +/-155F.....no way it will run that cool this time of year....bad gauge/sending unit/electrical connection, etc., etc......it's not functioning/displaying correctly.
Haha well its the middle of winter here down under lol, i live in Australia (home of the ARB bullbar), when i drive around town 1/4 (i live in an alpine town) when i get to sydney its a bit over 1/4
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 06:29 AM
  #15  
CAEMI's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 889
Likes: 2
From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by djb383
I have never seen, not even once, in my many years, a vehicle that would constantly operate at 212F, winter or summer, traffic or highway, UNLESS, you are looking at the factory idiot gauge vs an accurate analog or digital or scan tool type aftermarket gauge. The XJ is no different. Even with a factory t-stat, the XJ (or any other vehicle) will run well below 212F in the dead of winter (heater on) and it will momentarily run well above 212F in summer time heat, a/c on, stop-n-go traffic, towing, etc., etc. To say coolant temp remains constant just isn't correct but the factory temp gauge will make u think so.

My point was not that the system will always be at 212 but that the optimal AVERAGE temp is 212. If you force the AVERAGE temp higher or lower, you are doing the wrong thing. Brief excursions to 240 or 180 are not meaningful...but running at 240 or 180 for a week is.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 PM.