Wheel question
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From: Forest, VA
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
honestly, i didn't mean to. i just wanted destination a/t's and they just happened to be 10 ply. i think the bfg at's on my dodge are 8 ply. but i have actually bounced them off the sidewalk at about 50-55 mpg with no damage whatsoever. i've done the same with douglas xtratrac in my 2wd pickup and it blew the tire and bent the wheel. so i trust high ply tires. besides they wear so much better.
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From: Soddy Daisy TN
Year: 97
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besides they wear so much better.[/QUOTE]
But you have no sidewall flex at single digits. Just fyi I have used a hammer on plenty of steel wheels that got bent on rocks and they aired right back up. A friend rolled his Scout and bent one bad, a crecent wrench and a bfh and it still holds air and balances good too. If you regear for the bigger tires the mileage will go back up. Like I said earlier I average 15mpg with 35s but I put 4.56s in my axles to bring it back close to stock.
But you have no sidewall flex at single digits. Just fyi I have used a hammer on plenty of steel wheels that got bent on rocks and they aired right back up. A friend rolled his Scout and bent one bad, a crecent wrench and a bfh and it still holds air and balances good too. If you regear for the bigger tires the mileage will go back up. Like I said earlier I average 15mpg with 35s but I put 4.56s in my axles to bring it back close to stock.
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But you have no sidewall flex at single digits. Just fyi I have used a hammer on plenty of steel wheels that got bent on rocks and they aired right back up. A friend rolled his Scout and bent one bad, a crecent wrench and a bfh and it still holds air and balances good too. If you regear for the bigger tires the mileage will go back up. Like I said earlier I average 15mpg with 35s but I put 4.56s in my axles to bring it back close to stock.[/QUOTE]
i don't doubt that one bit. but i mean, regear for front and rear is gonna cost at least $500 in parts alone. not to mention, whatever else you're gonna break it the process of regearing your axles. the possibilities are truly endless. but for a mild trail rig, i think aluminum wheels might serve a greater purpose. that's just my thought. also, aluminum doesn't rust, a decent scratch on a steel will rust it.
i don't doubt that one bit. but i mean, regear for front and rear is gonna cost at least $500 in parts alone. not to mention, whatever else you're gonna break it the process of regearing your axles. the possibilities are truly endless. but for a mild trail rig, i think aluminum wheels might serve a greater purpose. that's just my thought. also, aluminum doesn't rust, a decent scratch on a steel will rust it.
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From: New Jersey (Milltown, Lavallette, and Wayne)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
The mileage is already terrible on XJs anyway. What's the difference. Not trying to bash; I know there is added weight with my soft 8s, but with all the extra stuff most people have on their rigs (I.E. on mine Lift, bigger tires, Roof Rack, Full Size Spare, Tools/Recovery Gear) whats another 1-3 mpg lost. The way I think of it is what my dad told me, "If you wanna play, you gotta pay."
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From: Medicine Hat, Alberta
Model: Cherokee
i paid $350 for a set of 15x8 cast alloys shipped to my door with two installation kits. steelies might be about 70 to 100 dollars cheaper than that, but i guarantee you that you will pay that much difference in gas in the first 3 months. you gotta figure that the XJ was designed for 27.7 tall regular tires, so 31" 8-10 ply tires are already gonna put a dent on your mileage. add to it steel wheels, you might move from 18-20 to 12-14. my 4.5" lift and 31x10.50-15's cost me 5mpg, and i drive like a grandpa. i have bought every aftermarket bolt on to make that difference up. i just don't like to be driving a 10 mpg vehicle. before i put the new wheels and tires on, i weighted them. the stock alloys with 235/70-15 were 44 lbs. then new 15x8's and firestone destination a/t tires weighted 61 lbs. a piece. just to give you an idea. and i also know that the steel wheels bend slightly easier than the aluminum alloys. not to say that the force that would be exerted on them, wouldn't trash either one. just an idea.
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But you have no sidewall flex at single digits. Just fyi I have used a hammer on plenty of steel wheels that got bent on rocks and they aired right back up. A friend rolled his Scout and bent one bad, a crecent wrench and a bfh and it still holds air and balances good too. If you regear for the bigger tires the mileage will go back up. Like I said earlier I average 15mpg with 35s but I put 4.56s in my axles to bring it back close to stock.[/QUOTE]
i don't doubt that one bit. but i mean, regear for front and rear is gonna cost at least $500 in parts alone. not to mention, whatever else you're gonna break it the process of regearing your axles. the possibilities are truly endless. but for a mild trail rig, i think aluminum wheels might serve a greater purpose. that's just my thought. also, aluminum doesn't rust, a decent scratch on a steel will rust it.
i don't doubt that one bit. but i mean, regear for front and rear is gonna cost at least $500 in parts alone. not to mention, whatever else you're gonna break it the process of regearing your axles. the possibilities are truly endless. but for a mild trail rig, i think aluminum wheels might serve a greater purpose. that's just my thought. also, aluminum doesn't rust, a decent scratch on a steel will rust it.
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From: Forest, VA
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oh, i can't complain brotha... i probably got the best gas mileage on any XJ that i know. i get 24mpg highway with 31x10.50-15 and 4.5" lift. don't expect you to believe me. but i know how to keep the gas in the tank. these feet have worn off shoes on a pedal.
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besides, don't you think that your comment would have actually sounded smart if i didn't bring up the weight comparison of the old setup and the new setup in the same post that you quoted?
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From: Lake Orion, MI
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^see, guys, evidence that the debate continues, lol (jk)
but, just like xjmark said earlier, regearing really helps when you increase tire size and swap wheels. if anything, that should be a "must do" for anybody who lifts and replaced tires on their XJ.
but, just like xjmark said earlier, regearing really helps when you increase tire size and swap wheels. if anything, that should be a "must do" for anybody who lifts and replaced tires on their XJ.
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