Wheel lugs driving me nuts
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
Using anti-seize compound on the studs will actually decrease the clamping force when the lug nut is torqued to spec. A drop of 30wt on the stud is better and the clamping force will increase with the lug nut torqued to spec. You can not rely solely on the torque spec to have the proper clamping force, too many variables can cause the torque to be incorrect.
Just learned this is class... You CAN use anti seize on lug nuts.. However keep it mind it is a lubricant.. Therefore by the book you're supposed to drop the torque spec by 40% if you use anti seize. In my opinion.. Clean the threads and put then on dry, torque to 100ft lbs.
I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............
Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys!
http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
I am not sure what class you went to that said it's ok, but someone should tell the instructor that he/she is teaching a group of people the WRONG way! I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............ Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys! http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
Using anti-seize compound on the studs will actually decrease the clamping force when the lug nut is torqued to spec. A drop of 30wt on the stud is better and the clamping force will increase with the lug nut torqued to spec. You can not rely solely on the torque spec to have the proper clamping force, too many variables can cause the torque to be incorrect.
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
A drop of 30wt oil on the stud will increase the clamping force, anti-seize will decrease the clamping force. The studs should be dry unless specified by the manufacturer.
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
Yes, it acts as a lubricant and let's the lug nut turn on the stud more before reaching the specified torque, thus increasing the clamping force. Some manufacturers recommend 30wt oil on the stud before torquing the lug nuts, like on large truck hub centric wheels that use a lug nut with a washer built onto it.
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From: Greenville, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
so let me get this straight soak the lug nuts in anti seize and then put 30 drops of 30wt on the studs? Then torque them to 5 lbs of torque? With a plastic torque wrench?
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From: Hacienda Heights
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I am not sure what class you went to that said it's ok, but someone should tell the instructor that he/she is teaching a group of people the WRONG way!
I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............
Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys!
http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
I took a required class (for my job) that taught the harmful effects of using anti-seize on wheel lugs............
Anti-seize will DECREASE the clamping force when you torque the fastener to spec.................DON'T use it guys!
http://fleetowner.com/equipment/tire...debunking_myth
If you're comparing using anti-seize vs. dry which is the conversation at hand here your instructor and you are dead wrong.



