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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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im looking to put some locking diffs in my 98 xj with dans 35 rear and dana 30 front i. I wass looking at some and did not know why ther are 7 difernt type of lockers aval . spartan locker,lock right locker,detroit locker,arb air locker,yukon zip air locker,yukon grizzly (non air) locker, and hows the true trac limited slip,my jeep is a daily driver with a 3inch lift and going up 2 more pos 3 in new york city.so im trying to find the best set up for both and not off the deap end on price.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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you have 3 options, increasing in installation difficulty and cost:

1 - a lunchbox locker (powertrax, lock right) - replaces just spider gears, no gear work required.

2 - a standard locker (spartan, detroit, yukon) - replaces carrier - requires gear work

3 - a selectable locker (ARB Air, Yukon Air, Ox Locker) - replaces carrier, requires gear work and differential modification, may require air compressor and tank

Lots of great information here:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/sch/04/tes...les/index.html
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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If your going to put money into your rear Dana 35, swap it out for a better axle first. D35's aren't worth putting money into. Cheapest way out is a lunchbox locker, otherwise plan on a good $1200-$1400 to have a locker(selectable or not)installed and a re-gear. If its your daily driver, and never meshed gears before, have a pro do it.

What locker you go with is something you have to decide based on what you do with your rig and how big you want to go on the tires. Its a debatable issue, but the D30 front is generally safe on 33's with stock axles, 35's with chrome-moly's. I wouldn't put 33's on a D35, even a street rig. Take the time to learn the pro's and cons of each one and make a decision from there.

Your going to 5-6"? have you considered you might need an SYE setup and new driveshaft, overknuckle conversion and a drop pitman? You can fit 35's on a 3" lift, just have to trim, but you keep a good low COG.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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You have another choice. You can get an Aussie Locker...Tj
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 12:57 AM
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thanks ,I think i have a plan now.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 01:01 AM
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So why not let other know what that might be.... in case there are others with the same question/concern as you had?!
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Didn't most post 96's come with 8.25's? Thats crappy luck if you got the d35 in yours. Are you sure you have the d35? My 98 XJ sport came with a 29 spline 8.25. If thats the case you could buy a lunchbox locker for a couple hundred, its cheapest and very easy to install!

If it is in fact a d35, I would look for an 8.25 just make sure the gears are the same.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackXJ
Didn't most post 96's come with 8.25's? Thats crappy luck if you got the d35 in yours. Are you sure you have the d35? My 98 XJ sport came with a 29 spline 8.25. If thats the case you could buy a lunchbox locker for a couple hundred, its cheapest and very easy to install!

If it is in fact a d35, I would look for an 8.25 just make sure the gears are the same.
correct me if im wrong, but i think he has the D35 cuz he has ABS... but same as what BlackXJ said bout getting rid of the 35
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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yup if you have ABS, you have a d35. The C8.25 never came with ABS.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Yeah which sucks because I got ripped off and got abs instead of the 8.25.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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And whats the difference between non c-clip and c-clip? In the d35?
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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A c-clip shaft will depart the housing then the shaft breaks, a non-c clip won't.

The non-c clip is held in place by the retainer at the flange end of the shaft.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Dont lock a DD, and dont lock the front. Get a LSD in the rear and be done. Locking for street use causes problems.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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So its a little bit better POS? LOL
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Destination XJ
So its a little bit better POS? LOL
Some would debate that question, like me. I have 36s on my stock 35 axle and no problems, its a weekend warrior and no problems for the three years Ive wheeled it. I know plenty of guys that have 35s on the stock d35 axle with no problems. There is some kid a few towns over with 38's but dd's it to work and home from what I heard. I pass him on my way to work and never personally met him.
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