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joeyourbro 04-29-2019 02:37 PM

What to do with a RWD 4cyl 2 door
 
Here’s a gem from Nevada that made its way to the east coast. I’ve never seen a cleaner unibody on a cherokee out here. Only 112k original miles.

Salvage title which I don't care about. It was recalled a year after being purchased in 94. I think electrical issues (wipers and blower motor don’t work, speakers are all rewired into the sun visors).

But it’s a rwd 4 banger. I can’t even find two doors for sale here, especially in a 4cyl 5 speed configuration, so it’s kind of hard to find parts to 4wd swap. Wouldn’t even care much for the 4.0 as I already have a TJ as well, just 4wd comes in handy here. The 2.5 in it also runs like a top. It apparently won’t sell either for the $700 I have it up. I can’t count the numerous people that came out without reading the ad, only realizing what it actually is when they get there. Had an old man come from an hour and a half away just to leave within 5 minutes.

I was thinking roofrack and a bed setup in the trunk and make it a camper vehicle. Maybe another fresh rattle can job white with a baby blue stripe down the side. The headliner is missing and I was gonna have a local michelangelo paint the roof so I can stare at something while camping in the back.

Suggestions? Shame to see such a cool vehicle sit around. Check out the ZJ grill and my TJ as well lol
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SatiricalHen 04-29-2019 03:01 PM

If you want to convert the 2.5 to 4wd you can use a bellhousing off of a Dakota to use an ax-15 or nv3350 (think that's the right number) so that opens your transmission options up and gives you 2 stronger options. The rest of the drivetrain is identical for 4 cylinder, 6 cylinder, 5 speed, auto, 2 door, 4 door. I think the driveshaft had a couple different lengths, but that can be googled pretty easy and figured out. Personally I'd build up the motor on it, keep it 2wd and rip around in it.

joeyourbro 04-29-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by SatiricalHen (Post 3553443)
If you want to convert the 2.5 to 4wd you can use a bellhousing off of a Dakota to use an ax-15 or nv3350 (think that's the right number) so that opens your transmission options up and gives you 2 stronger options. The rest of the drivetrain is identical for 4 cylinder, 6 cylinder, 5 speed, auto, 2 door, 4 door. I think the driveshaft had a couple different lengths, but that can be googled pretty easy and figured out. Personally I'd build up the motor on it, keep it 2wd and rip around in it.

Yeah this Jeep would be just a kick around vehicle, if I can get the wipers to work it’d be a no brainer. Gas is great on this thing.
I’ve been reading up about an ax15 swap. Seems like if I were to put 4wd in it that’s the route i’d go. Finding the correct driveshaft lengths sound like the only pita. What can I do to this 2.5 to build it up a bit?

SatiricalHen 04-29-2019 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by joeyourbro
Yeah this Jeep would be just a kick around vehicle, if I can get the wipers to work it’d be a no brainer. Gas is great on this thing.
I’ve been reading up about an ax15 swap. Seems like if I were to put 4wd in it that’s the route i’d go. Finding the correct driveshaft lengths sound like the only pita. What can I do to this 2.5 to build it up a bit?

I've never looked into the 2.5 much, but bolt on easy stuff, probably injectors and a bored throttle body. Not sure there's much to do past that. I'd want to put a cam in it and bore it out a little, maybe get my friends who like to turbo everything to help me slap a turbo on it.

As far as wipers, I'm pretty sure it's a common problem with the intermittent wipers for the module to fail. I've seen quite a few threads about it.

joeyourbro 04-29-2019 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by SatiricalHen (Post 3553445)
I've never looked into the 2.5 much, but bolt on easy stuff, probably injectors and a bored throttle body. Not sure there's much to do past that. I'd want to put a cam in it and bore it out a little, maybe get my friends who like to turbo everything to help me slap a turbo on it.

As far as wipers, I'm pretty sure it's a common problem with the intermittent wipers for the module to fail. I've seen quite a few threads about it.

We’ve replaced the switch so far but not the module. That’s something I’ll look into it. This vehicle honestly sits around so much, I know there’s a slow PS leak and it likes to stall every once in awhile down the road. Throws a CEL but I’ve never looked, happened to my TJ once and was the CPS. I’ll look into it.

PatHenry 04-29-2019 04:32 PM

CPS failure seems extremely rare on a stick shift. Now I don't know about the 4cyl, but after 715k over 3 manual Jeeps in the family (2 AX15, 1 NV3550), there's yet to be a single CPS failure. Also, if you do go the 4.0L route, stick with the AX15, the NV3550 I had in my 2k TJ was a total piece of junk.

joeyourbro 04-29-2019 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by PatHenry (Post 3553456)
CPS failure seems extremely rare on a stick shift. Now I don't know about the 4cyl, but after 715k over 3 manual Jeeps in the family (2 AX15, 1 NV3550), there's yet to be a single CPS failure. Also, if you do go the 4.0L route, stick with the AX15, the NV3550 I had in my 2k TJ was a total piece of junk.

Ill have to get the code when I get back from vacation. That was just my experience from my TJ.

lawsoncl 04-29-2019 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by joeyourbro (Post 3553448)
We’ve replaced the switch so far but not the module.

I've fixed a few intermittent modules by reflowing solder joints. Worth taking apart and seeing if it has the tell-tale circular cracks around the solder joints.

joeyourbro 04-29-2019 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by lawsoncl (Post 3553518)
I've fixed a few intermittent modules by reflowing solder joints. Worth taking apart and seeing if it has the tell-tale circular cracks around the solder joints.

Im pretty decent with a soldering iron, thanks for the heads up.

cruiser54 04-30-2019 08:08 AM

If both wipers and blower motor don't work, it's likely the brown wire at the ignition switch is burned along with the switch.

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Cummins93 04-30-2019 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by SatiricalHen (Post 3553445)
I've never looked into the 2.5 much, but bolt on easy stuff, probably injectors and a bored throttle body. Not sure there's much to do past that. I'd want to put a cam in it and bore it out a little, maybe get my friends who like to turbo everything to help me slap a turbo on it.

As far as wipers, I'm pretty sure it's a common problem with the intermittent wipers for the module to fail. I've seen quite a few threads about it.

I would say look into a turbocharger set up for it. It wouldn't put down the most power but it would be very unique and surprise a lot of skeptics. Too bad there isn't a bolt on manifold for a turbo. If only there was someone currently working on such a part?

Red1992XJ 04-30-2019 10:42 AM

Keep it and do a 4wd swap. My grandfather had an 85 4cyl, auto, 4wd, and it was still a beast in the snow. Others on here would know more, but I think you could convert it using parts from a 4 door.

My advice, clean it up and keep it relatively stock , and you will have people offering you money left and right for it. I don't know why people would turn down a rust free XJ in NJ, they are hard to find.

SatiricalHen 04-30-2019 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Red1992XJ
Keep it and do a 4wd swap. My grandfather had an 85 4cyl, auto, 4wd, and it was still a beast in the snow. Others on here would know more, but I think you could convert it using parts from a 4 door.

My advice, clean it up and keep it relatively stock , and you will have people offering you money left and right for it. I don't know why people would turn down a rust free XJ in NJ, they are hard to find.

4 door and 2 door are exactly the same mechanically speaking.

PatHenry 04-30-2019 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Red1992XJ (Post 3553575)
. I don't know why people would turn down a rust free XJ in NJ, they are hard to find.

Probably an inability to drive a manual transmission.

Waynerd 04-30-2019 04:34 PM

I always figured if I got a rwd I would just drive it in the summer or even in winter when there’s no snow. Although all I drove was 2wd vehicles for the first 5 years I had my license. Never really had any problems. Only times I ever got stuck was trying to drive through muddy cornfields.

Red1992XJ 05-01-2019 07:37 PM

I think boosted tech makes a kit for the jeep wrangler with the 2.5l. Maybe this can be adapted to the cherokee.

dave1123 05-01-2019 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by PatHenry (Post 3553616)
Probably an inability to drive a manual transmission.

Driving a stick in heavy traffic sucks.

Ralph77 05-02-2019 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by PatHenry (Post 3553616)
Probably an inability to drive a manual transmission.


Originally Posted by dave1123 (Post 3553836)
Driving a stick in heavy traffic sucks.

I don't know about you guys but I am too old and too lazy to drive a vehicle with a stick anymore. LOL.

joeyourbro 05-02-2019 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ralph77 (Post 3553858)
I don't know about you guys but I am too old and too lazy to drive a vehicle with a stick anymore. LOL.

I learned to drive stick on this cherokee, which is the reason I ended up buying a TJ in automatic. Can’t be bothered as much as I do enjoy having more control over the vehicle.

Waynerd 05-02-2019 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by dave1123 (Post 3553836)
Driving a stick in heavy traffic sucks.

hell I used to drive 20 miles to school in my 1975 c10 4speed and no cup holders. A coffee in one hand, smoking a cigarette and banging gears. lol. And I shift my automatics now. I especially love the newer vehicles with electronic manual shift automatics. But yes there are times when they are less convenient.


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