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Old 04-23-2009, 04:44 PM
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Will these options I get more droop out of my XJ? (see pics) I am UnEmployed right now so cash is problem. I have parts on hand to do a couple things, will they work? This is temporary. When I get a job I will be doing 3.5-4.5 lift, using new springs and arms, drop brackets.
Current 3.5" JY lift. very stiff 3.5" fr springs (red), very stiff 3.5" rr b-pack+1.5" shackle.. 30" BFG, sway gone rear, connected front.
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1. Put Stock shackle back on and run a 2" Block...

2. Remove some of the added leafs in the B-pack and run the block...




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Blocks are bad... mmmmkay?

They allow the axle to twist the springs because they increase the lverage that the axle has.
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Originally Posted by solderjunkie
Blocks are bad... mmmmkay?

They allow the axle to twist the springs because they increase the lverage that the axle has.
lol x2. Disco the front swaybar and flex will increase. If your springs are stiff, you can probably just remove it all together. I've been running mine like this since I got it with no problems.
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after market trackbar, lower control arms, extend brake lines, longer shocks, and disconnect front sway bar will all help to improve flex. going with bigger springs probably will not help and removing some leafs might improve but also will result with some sag... my opinion, stickwith the basics and no blocks
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Disconnect the front sway bar and make sure your shocks are long enough.
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i ditched my swaybar. I dont drive it on the street tho so my vote goes to the Disco's
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1)control arms with flex joints
2)quality leaf pack
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Please read my first post. Wanting ti get increased flex, WITHOUT spending any money. Mainly want to increase flex in Rear end. I know block can exagerate warp/ But I want to know is, if I putthem in and use either less leafs in the B-pack or go back to the stock shackle would I get more axel droop.
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http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/...bar_Discos.htm

Ace hardware sells the stuff..

thank me later!
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Default re phase question. rear end only.Parts on hand ONLY

Forget about the front I can disconnect the swaybay and get all the flex i need. question is about the Rear and using parts on hand. Will softer leaf pack and a block droop more than the B-pack as is? Will the block used with the stock shackle allow the axel to droop more? Shocks are not limiting as they Are for 4-6" lift. Brake line might be holding it back but I can extend them.
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you want more droop? get revolver shackles..
you want more flex out of a leaf spring? good luck..

thats crazy. you re flexing on a hill, find a decent rock or something and then complain about flexing!

stiff ride.. are running stock springs with bb?
i got 3" bb up front and block + Teraflex 1.5" shackle.. it rides like a caddy!
Skyjacker shocks.
Can be anything.. drive shaft binding? brake lines too short? shocks too short? you dont even have room to stuff your wimpy 30" tires..

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Originally Posted by jeepgeek2002
you want more droop? get revolver shackles..
you want more flex out of a leaf spring? good luck..

thats crazy. you re flexing on a hill, find a decent rock or something and then complain about flexing!

stiff ride.. are running stock springs with bb?
i got 3" bb up front and block + Teraflex 1.5" shackle.. it rides like a caddy!
Skyjacker shocks.
Can be anything.. drive shaft binding? brake lines too short? shocks too short? you dont even have room to stuff your wimpy 30" tires..

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Bad pic's I can stuff the 30's and the 32 muds I have in the back yard. I just don't have many poser pics of the rig. Brake line the only thing I that may be bindin... 6" more forward on the little hill lifts the rear wheel.
Thats why I posted the question. I bought this rig in December with the following lift. Front 3.5" spring (red I thing skyjackers) and a 2" spacer, rear is B-Pack (no idea the donor), 2"block and 1.5" shackles. I removed the blocks and front spacers. I plan to do a proper lift of 4-6" when I get a job.
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Originally Posted by 93gc40
Forget about the front I can disconnect the swaybay and get all the flex i need. question is about the Rear and using parts on hand. Will softer leaf pack and a block droop more than the B-pack as is? Will the block used with the stock shackle allow the axel to droop more? Shocks are not limiting as they Are for 4-6" lift. Brake line might be holding it back but I can extend them.
longer shackles will help with flex
or the revolver shackles
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Originally Posted by mike37
longer shackles will help with flex
or the revolver shackles
Does anybody make a extended lift revolver shackle?

I saw some shackle relocation brackets somewhere anybody have a link?
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i run blocks no worries because im to lazy to put the leafs i got in


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