whats wrong about that? is that you dont get out? nobody gets out of there jeep to put it in 4x4... because they dont have lock out hubs lol... XJ's TJ's ZJ's WJ's YJ's didnt have lock out hubs from jeep that you get out of the jeep to turn... WOW! my comprehension works great... maybe you mean something else but when you say "locking hubs"... i cant think of anything else that you would mean...

for say... 97+ Dana 30's were solid shaft on the pass side... there was no disconnect ran by anything... vacuum... electric... mechanical... nothing... just llike most other axles... you just stuck the 4x4 lever in 4x4 and went... they have no lock out hubs... the older XJ's were vacuum disconnect axles... when converted now you have your OEM 4x4 handle to the transfer case... and now another handle to pull to engage the 4x4 on the axle... no its not hard... no its not that big of a deal... yes it is that big of a deal when your installing the kit to do it that cost the same as a 97+ axle that will also include 760 axle joints which are stronger then the disco axles 297's...

if you talking about something different and calling it this then fine... no big deal... but i sure as heck no what im talking about...

 

Is there any disadvantage to permanently locking the front axle on one of these older D30's? What exactly would be the point of swapping in a non disconnect D30 if I can just lock the one I've got? Just to get the stronger u-joints?

If I'm understanding correctly one could also just swap non-disconnect axleshafts into an older housing, but it sounds like some custom parts are needed? Can someone elaborate on this, it that something worth doing or would it be better just to swap in the entire housing?

I'm pretty sure my D30 is ready for new ball joints & maybe other maintenance parts. Wondering if maybe I should just look for a newer D30 without the vacuum junk and with the better u-joints before I put any money into this one...

 

We already covered all of this in this very thread man...

 

No, what I was getting at is this:

Pulling an extra lever is still less work than getting out and locking hubs.

How else are you going to eliminate the vacuum disconnect?

Either locking hubs or the mod you've mentioned that gets "kinked" often.

I never said any XJ or TJ or anything else you've listed came with locking hubs. You have been the only one bringing anything of the sort to this conversation.

Maybe your confusing yourself? I'm not sure...

But, again, you miscomprehended my entire post. Nothing about it was wrong.

All I was saying is that pulling an extra lever is still easier than getting out and locking hubs.

We are talking about the vacuum disconnect and ways to engage the front axle easier/stronger/more reliably, right?

 

No... that's not what were talking about... nobody said anything about locking hubs until you did... if you get rid of the disco setup... that doesn't mean you have to have locking hubs... I was talking to the op about ways to get rid of the disco and swapping the new axle in instead is his best bet... lock in hubs on a Dana 30 is stupid... I don't even know why your bringing them up... its not even something you swap out for a disco setup... your talking about something all in your own...

 

So you've never driven a truck with locking hubs? I'm pretty sure they don't have the same vacuum disconnect that the XJs do.

Thats the point of the locking hubs, right?

So I'll say again, instead of having to lock hubs outside the truck, I'd rather have a 2 lever system inside the truck.

Never once did I say any XJ came with locking hubs. Or any other truck you've mentioned.

 

what? ok... i give up... its hopeless... grab your last word im done with you...

 

Lol...no youre not.
He'll come and say something and you'll be forced to come right back. That's just how it works.
I'm just kidding btw so don't get upset.

 

You dont get it. He never said to put locking hubs on a d30. Go re read it, or take an English class.

He is not saying Cherokees ever came with locking hubs. He is simply comparing the two. Just stating a fact that its easier to pull the posi lock cable than to get out and have to lock in hubs.

 

^ or someone else will say it for him lol.

 

Say...can I get some that stuff you guys are on??

 

NO! Now go away....

 

 

Haha just kidding friend.

 

U-boat xj, how is it that your cherokee is a '92 and has a vacuum disconnect? Did you already swap axles with some older ones? Because if you didn't, YOU DON'T HAVE A VACUUM DISCONNECT, and these guys are arguing for nothing.