Unusual sensor problem
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1994 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Hmmm..Then something is indeed screwy as I am getting 4.3 give or take .1 at idle..Knowing this and knowing the TPS has been changed any ideas what could be causing this higher voltage reading?
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From: Schnecksville, PA
Year: 94 XJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
I want to say you ned to adjust the TPS.
But like you I have a 94, and mine is set (no adjustability)
The Pre-91's w/ Auto have a TPS that is adjustable, but it is a completely different critter. The manual model is more like the ones we have on our 94's but the lever on the backside is different and the inside of the wire connector also.
But like you I have a 94, and mine is set (no adjustability)
The Pre-91's w/ Auto have a TPS that is adjustable, but it is a completely different critter. The manual model is more like the ones we have on our 94's but the lever on the backside is different and the inside of the wire connector also.
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Problem with that is that its a plastic body with metal sleeves.
Elongating the holes would just destroy it.
Have you tested all of them?
Is the voltage reading constant?
Elongating the holes would just destroy it.
Have you tested all of them?
Is the voltage reading constant?
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1994 1993
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Well since the bolts would hold it down pretty snuggly I was thinking that even with the holes slightly elongated it might stay put..It`s not like it's under a lot of torque..I never really tested any of the junkyard ones..Just took them out of the junked Jeeps and popped them in mine..They all acted exactly the same way..Ran perfectly untill the engine gets warm and then the check engine light comes on and they act goofy..Finally bought a new one and it was the exact same thing
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From: Fayetteville
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L stroker with 99+ intake
Do not try to elongate the holes you have a problem that needs to be fixed if your voltages are changing that much with the engine running. You could also have a internal PCM failure doing it. You have said the check engine light comes on what is the code.
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Yes it`s always the same code..24 (TPS)..The manual says to check the voltage which seems to be incorrect but it also has an asterisk* which says that changing the sensor might not fix the problem..The Jeep runs perfectly until the check engine light pops on as described in above posts which to me seems to be at a time when the engine has reached a certain temp
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You would need to check the voltages at the PCM with the engine running, it is easiest to due that with a scan tool. Without knowing what the PCM is seeing you are trying to fix this problem blind. But if the voltages are normal with the engine off I would guess you have a short to the signal wire or a bad PCM.
AKA the pick-up, or pick up coil.
Have you replaced the distributor yet? If you buy a "new" distributor with an A1-Cardone unit from the chain stores- they don't install new pick-ups inside; they re-use the OEM units. You spend $ thinking you're getting new parts inside, but buyer beware. I guess the only thing you have going for you on that one is the lifetime warranty.
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Nothing really new to report as it`s been like 25-30 degrees the past week and I haven`t messed with it but it`s suppose to reach 50+ tomorrow and 60 and sunny on Sunday so I'll try out a few of the suggestions..I`m leaning more towards some sort of ground problem involving some sort of heat related item/sensor as the problem doesn`t appear untill the Jeep reaches a certain temp or the point where some sort of heat related item would activate..Some of the more mechanical suggestions would draw my attention more if the problem was constant throughout the driving/temp range or if it appeared more irregularly but it`s pretty much predictable to the minute as far as when it comes on based on engine temp...I`ll report back



