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Kev_n_AZ Jul 3, 2010 06:56 PM

squeals too much
 
replaced belt and idle pulley.. squeal is still there.. Im wondering if its not water pump.. any ideas?

it is fine at idle. when ac is engaged it squeals .. sounds like from middle of engine not ac compressor.. maybe a stethoscope will help..

Bigclubs Jul 3, 2010 08:13 PM

My 96 squeeled when turning on the AC or the window defrost for a few years and tried also changing the compressor with a used one, 2 surpentene belts. Lubed the bearings and where ever I could think the squeeling was mayhbe coming from. I would watch my alternator gauge drop to @9V and would go back up when I turned off the defroster. I was just about to have a mechanic friend at Sears change the alternator with a used one I picked up and tested to be good. Pulled it into the garage and when I opened the hood to my buddy to check the alternator and the power steering pump FAILED spraying oil all over the engine. We replaced the pump resevior and the squeeling has not returned. I was also informed by a Jeep technician I know that those newer surpentine belts with the angular cuts in the belt cause more squeel problems. He said to use Gates or Oem straight groove belts.
Before replacing the AC compressor check the bearings in the power steering resevoir the possible squeeling if you already replace the surpentine belt.

99WhiteLightning Jul 4, 2010 02:57 PM

my 99 xj has a major squeal when i first start it up everytime i have come to the conclusion that the bearings in my PSP(Power Steering Pump) is going bad. now i need to figure out how to change them

EVcherokee Jul 4, 2010 03:10 PM

Check your harmonic balancer too, if you see a little piece of rubber sticking out or a hole where it should be, replace it. I spend a few months chasing a squeal and thats what it was. Also make sure you tighten the serp. belt enough, XJ's require a really tight belt. The section of belt that goes from the power steering to the ilder shouldn't be able to twist past 90 degrees

chances are if you have a squeal, your belt is already glazed over, so you'll need another. Go to Napa or Carquest and ask for a "Gates" brand belt, they're a little more expensive, but you get what you pay for or go with an OEM.

EVcherokee Jul 4, 2010 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by 99WhiteLightning (Post 591987)
my 99 xj has a major squeal when i first start it up everytime i have come to the conclusion that the bearings in my PSP(Power Steering Pump) is going bad. now i need to figure out how to change them

If your pump is bad, just replace the whole pump. When you have the belt off and you turn the power steering pump by hand, does it make noise or do you feel "lumpy" resistance? Is it leaking? Loss of power steering ability? If no, chances are its fine. You probably need a new belt and need to tighen it properly.

93gc40 Jul 4, 2010 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by EVcherokee (Post 591996)
Check your harmonic balancer too, if you see a little piece of rubber sticking out or a hole where it should be, replace it. I spend a few months chasing a squeal and thats what it was. Also make sure you tighten the serp. belt enough, XJ's require a really tight belt. The section of belt that goes from the power steering to the ilder shouldn't be able to twist past 90 degrees NOT CORRECT

chances are if you have a squeal, your belt is already glazed over, so you'll need another. Go to Napa or Carquest and ask for a "Gates" brand belt, they're a little more expensive, but you get what you pay for or go with an OEM.

While at Napa get a belt tension gage. This $10.00 tool is the ONLY way to correctly tension a serpentine belt. They require 140-160 lbs of tension. Squeal can be caused by looseness and being over tightened, so get the tool and do it right.

EVcherokee Jul 4, 2010 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 93gc40 (Post 592000)
While at Napa get a belt tension gage. This $10.00 tool is the ONLY way to correctly tension a serpentine belt. They require 140-160 lbs of tension. Squeal can be caused by looseness and being over tightened, so get the tool and do it right.

X2 I'll have to get one of those, I thought they were a lot more!

My method does work though and is a good thing to know for trail repairs or if your stranded, but if you have a gauge, yes, use it, and do it right.


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