Should i change these plugs? Will i get bettet mileage?
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From: Seal Beach, CA
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO Straight Six
An auto parts house is any auto parts store (NAPA, Autozone, Kragen, etc)
And no, they don't only carry Chinese parts. I know I got my Champion Copper plugs at Autozone (or wait... Are those made in China? Haha I don't know)
And no, they don't only carry Chinese parts. I know I got my Champion Copper plugs at Autozone (or wait... Are those made in China? Haha I don't know)
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That's probably why you had the wrong plugs in it before - AUTOCHINA is famous or giving out the WRONG parts.
You had the wrong ones before and still do
Expect poor mileage, lower performance, inaudible ping, burned valves and melted pistons. Will they give you a new engine for free too?
Go to a parts house - not a Chinese junk shop.
You had the wrong ones before and still do
Expect poor mileage, lower performance, inaudible ping, burned valves and melted pistons. Will they give you a new engine for free too?
Go to a parts house - not a Chinese junk shop.
well you may want to go to this link
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/index.asp
while your there do a parts search for a spark plug for a cherokee with a 4.0. you may be shocked to find that the only plug NGK offers for that application is the V-power plug.. in fact i tried 3 different cars.. NONE offered the std copper plug. if they don't offer a std. copper plug for a 1977 chevy truck with a 350 SBC.. then they aren't offering them for anything newer either.. in fact.. they offer platinum and iridium plugs for the other models i looked up, but ONLY a V-power plug for a 4.0 equipped cherokee. and for those you jump the guy for the plugs not being copper.. i raided the computer at the local "auto china" and those plugs are listed as "NGK v-power copper"
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and in case your not aware.. autozone and advanced auto use many of the same parts.. in fact they both sell airtex fuel pumps. what it may be time for you to realize is that the cheap price is what most American people want! they don't care about quality anymore. so your old mom and pop parts store struggles to exist or just plain doesn't exist anymore. the reason being that you can preach quality til your blue in the face and the bottom dollar is the bottom line! or the mom and pop places start selling Chinese junk. just like napa
So what’s left? Name brand oils and chemicals. They cannot even be honest with those.
Shelf price says 2.99 each, buy 10 –why is the bill $38 + tx?
Carb cleaner $.99 – sign on top of big stack. Buy 12 – why is the bill for $32.
Shelf price is not what they charge at the register. See for yourself!
Shelf price says 2.99 each, buy 10 –why is the bill $38 + tx?
Carb cleaner $.99 – sign on top of big stack. Buy 12 – why is the bill for $32.
Shelf price is not what they charge at the register. See for yourself!
this is not always the case.. lets take ball joints for example.. ball joints for my 04 ford super duty come in many flavors.. i could buy them directly from ford and pay out the butt for them.. or buy them in a spicer box cheaper. which is actually the exact same joint since spicer makes the ball joint and actually the entire front axle ***embly for ford. or i can buy MOOG. which is JUNK. they ruined there good name years ago. or i can buy XRF joints.. XRF's if you shop around are sometime as little as HALF what the ford joints cost (and less than moogs as well). but the quality is as good or better and they offer a million mile warranty. are the fords automatically the best?
oh wait was i supposed to keep my mouth shut because I'm a newbie here?
Last edited by 370; May 17, 2012 at 05:17 PM.
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From: Central Arkansas
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Originally Posted by 370
well you may want to go to this link
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/index.asp
while your there do a parts search for a spark plug for a cherokee with a 4.0. you may be shocked to find that the only plug NGK offers for that application is the V-power plug.. in fact i tried 3 different cars.. NONE offered the std copper plug. if they don't offer a std. copper plug for a 1977 chevy truck with a 350 SBC.. then they aren't offering them for anything newer either.. in fact.. they offer platinum and iridium plugs for the other models i looked up, but ONLY a V-power plug for a 4.0 equipped cherokee. and for those you jump the guy for the plugs not being copper.. i raided the computer at the local "auto china" and those plugs are listed as "NGK v-power copper"
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From: Landers, CA
Year: Several
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Why do a parts search with a part's house's computer that's often wrong when the brand, number and gap are right on the underhood label. WHY DO YOU THINK THE ENGINEERS PUT IT THERE?
Too hard to bend over and look?
Can't read?
Depending on the year Cherokee, the desired plug is different.
FSM has the make number and gap too - but you have to look and be able to understand.
AutoChina does not sell ALL Chinese crap, They also sell some from Mexico, Korea, and other places - sending our money out of the country like Wal Mart. They buy the cheapest crap they can find, even if it's made in the US.
They don't care about quality - if it's bad they'll give you another bad one, then another when that doesn't work. But who pays the labor to keep trying one till it works?
I suspect they just put it back on the shelf for the next sucker.
After your 3rd return they refuse to honor their warranty anyway - they say it's your fault!
Their Business practice of bait and switch is illegal!
But use their stuff if you like replacing the same part over and over.
It's your choice to deal with crooks. I don't care!
Look on here at all the threads about sensors - so many times a "new' one from the junk places don't work or fail in a few short miles.
BTW - CHAMPION AND AUTOLITE are made in USA.
Too hard to bend over and look?
Can't read?
Depending on the year Cherokee, the desired plug is different.
FSM has the make number and gap too - but you have to look and be able to understand.
AutoChina does not sell ALL Chinese crap, They also sell some from Mexico, Korea, and other places - sending our money out of the country like Wal Mart. They buy the cheapest crap they can find, even if it's made in the US.
They don't care about quality - if it's bad they'll give you another bad one, then another when that doesn't work. But who pays the labor to keep trying one till it works?
I suspect they just put it back on the shelf for the next sucker.
After your 3rd return they refuse to honor their warranty anyway - they say it's your fault!
Their Business practice of bait and switch is illegal!
But use their stuff if you like replacing the same part over and over.
It's your choice to deal with crooks. I don't care!
Look on here at all the threads about sensors - so many times a "new' one from the junk places don't work or fail in a few short miles.
BTW - CHAMPION AND AUTOLITE are made in USA.
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From: Smiths Station, Al
Year: 87
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No post count ate time on forum dont mean that lol
But having attitude will get you some flak lol.
Great post but i will still always try and but MIA if i can even if its junk
But having attitude will get you some flak lol.
Great post but i will still always try and but MIA if i can even if its junk
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From: Landers, CA
Year: Several
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
The V - the ground electrode is split - the idea is to have 2 wear points.
But - look at the number chart for regular plugs - it's a long list.
Now look at the gimmick plugs - any brand, the list is short, but they say they cover everything.
WHY? HOW?
They combine numbers - if it fits the hole use it! Heat ranges, reach, indexing etc is wrong.
Just because it's right for a Yugo doesn't man it's right for a Jeep.
But - look at the number chart for regular plugs - it's a long list.
Now look at the gimmick plugs - any brand, the list is short, but they say they cover everything.
WHY? HOW?
They combine numbers - if it fits the hole use it! Heat ranges, reach, indexing etc is wrong.
Just because it's right for a Yugo doesn't man it's right for a Jeep.
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Why do a parts search with a part's house's computer that's often wrong when the brand, number and gap are right on the underhood label. WHY DO YOU THINK THE ENGINEERS PUT IT THERE?
Too hard to bend over and look?
Can't read?
Depending on the year Cherokee, the desired plug is different.
FSM has the make number and gap too - but you have to look and be able to understand.
AutoChina does not sell ALL Chinese crap, They also sell some from Mexico, Korea, and other places - sending our money out of the country like Wal Mart. They buy the cheapest crap they can find, even if it's made in the US.
They don't care about quality - if it's bad they'll give you another bad one, then another when that doesn't work. But who pays the labor to keep trying one till it works?
I suspect they just put it back on the shelf for the next sucker.
After your 3rd return they refuse to honor their warranty anyway - they say it's your fault!
Their Business practice of bait and switch is illegal!
But use their stuff if you like replacing the same part over and over.
It's your choice to deal with crooks. I don't care!
Look on here at all the threads about sensors - so many times a "new' one from the junk places don't work or fail in a few short miles.
BTW - CHAMPION AND AUTOLITE are made in USA.
Too hard to bend over and look?
Can't read?
Depending on the year Cherokee, the desired plug is different.
FSM has the make number and gap too - but you have to look and be able to understand.
AutoChina does not sell ALL Chinese crap, They also sell some from Mexico, Korea, and other places - sending our money out of the country like Wal Mart. They buy the cheapest crap they can find, even if it's made in the US.
They don't care about quality - if it's bad they'll give you another bad one, then another when that doesn't work. But who pays the labor to keep trying one till it works?
I suspect they just put it back on the shelf for the next sucker.
After your 3rd return they refuse to honor their warranty anyway - they say it's your fault!
Their Business practice of bait and switch is illegal!
But use their stuff if you like replacing the same part over and over.
It's your choice to deal with crooks. I don't care!
Look on here at all the threads about sensors - so many times a "new' one from the junk places don't work or fail in a few short miles.
BTW - CHAMPION AND AUTOLITE are made in USA.
on a side note i happen to be a fan of copper plugs. i've built many 2 stroke ATV's and always tell the guys i do engien for to use reg copper plugs. the platinums and iridiums are a gimmick
Last edited by 370; May 17, 2012 at 06:04 PM.
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The V - the ground electrode is split - the idea is to have 2 wear points.
But - look at the number chart for regular plugs - it's a long list.
Now look at the gimmick plugs - any brand, the list is short, but they say they cover everything.
WHY? HOW?
They combine numbers - if it fits the hole use it! Heat ranges, reach, indexing etc is wrong.
Just because it's right for a Yugo doesn't man it's right for a Jeep.
But - look at the number chart for regular plugs - it's a long list.
Now look at the gimmick plugs - any brand, the list is short, but they say they cover everything.
WHY? HOW?
They combine numbers - if it fits the hole use it! Heat ranges, reach, indexing etc is wrong.
Just because it's right for a Yugo doesn't man it's right for a Jeep.
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From: Edmonton
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
http://www.championsparkplugs.com/re...p?AAIA=1180000
Ngk or champion...my renix calls for champs, do HO's call for Ngk?
This is for a 2000...
http://www.championsparkplugs.com/re...p?AAIA=1363384
Ngk or champion...my renix calls for champs, do HO's call for Ngk?
This is for a 2000...
http://www.championsparkplugs.com/re...p?AAIA=1363384
Last edited by hankthetank; May 17, 2012 at 06:11 PM.