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Old 07-04-2010, 11:04 PM
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Hey everybody

Today I picked up a set of five wheels from a 2005 rubicon wranger. They are the stock "moab" rims that come on the new Jeep Wranglers.

I went to test mount these tires on my 2001 Cherokee. They fit on there great when the wheels are straight, however, when I go to turn the wheels they are rubbing the inner wheel well somewhere.

I do not exactly know what I should do. The tires that are on the wheels are 32' 265x75. They are big tires. I'm wondering if I should go ahead and sell those tires and downgrade to slightly smaller tires that are 30' in size. I am also throwing around the idea of doing some sort of budget lift, being that I did not really anticipate lifting the vehicle at this point.

What would you all recommend doing? Change tires or keep oversized tires and get a lift?

If recommending a lift, please let me know what the smallest one is that can get away with. Throw me a ballpark price if possible as well.

I really, really appreciate all of your help!
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i may be wrong, but from the sounds of it you're at stock height. if thats true then you're looking at around 4-5 inches of lift to fit those 32's if you dont plan on trimming and it would still be alot of trimming to fit those stock.
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Thank you for your response. What do you think is the biggest tire I could run on the 16' rims without having to lift or modify at all?

I am at stock height.
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29s is the biggest that can fit under it stock I know on a 15 inch rim its 235/75 but on 16 I dont know
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Im running 245/75 R15's. they don't rub. i think they are like 29.5 or something.
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A lot of it depends on your backspacing, as well. With proper bumpstopping and backspacing, you can fit a 30" tire underneath a stock Cherokee (with fresh springs and shocks; old stuff has too much sag in it) with minimal rubbing. The backspacing on stock Rubicon rims is 4.75". If you were to run another rim, one with, say...4" backspacing, I think you'll find you'll run into less rubbing.

Are you planning on taking the vehicle offroad at all, or planning on it seeing any flex? If not, and if the tires are rubbing on the lower control arms, you can swap the stock ones out for LCA's from a WJ Grand Cherokee. They have a bend already in them that will help alleviate rubbing.
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroZ
Hey everybody

Today I picked up a set of five wheels from a 2005 rubicon wranger. They are the stock "moab" rims that come on the new Jeep Wranglers.

I went to test mount these tires on my 2001 Cherokee. They fit on there great when the wheels are straight, however, when I go to turn the wheels they are rubbing the inner wheel well somewhere.

I do not exactly know what I should do. The tires that are on the wheels are 32' 265x75. They are big tires. I'm wondering if I should go ahead and sell those tires and downgrade to slightly smaller tires that are 30' in size. I am also throwing around the idea of doing some sort of budget lift, being that I did not really anticipate lifting the vehicle at this point.

What would you all recommend doing? Change tires or keep oversized tires and get a lift?

If recommending a lift, please let me know what the smallest one is that can get away with. Throw me a ballpark price if possible as well.

I really, really appreciate all of your help!
At 32" on 4.75" BS rims and stock height, you have several issues. 1. Fender rubbing 2. rubbing the lower control arms 3. reduced gas mileage 4. reduced power.
MPG and power can only be helped by regearing 32" tire will need at least 4.10 gears most would do 4.56, $500-1000 per axle.
Fender rub is cured by lifting and/or fender trimming, 29" is max stock. 32" tire with NO trimming would require 5" of lift, to do this correctly you are looking at $1500 min. You can do less lift if you don't mind cutting the fenders some 4" or less lift can be done for less than $1000. I have a 5" lift, that when completed will cost me about $700. Trimming is free you can trim to make almost any tire fit.
Control arm rub can be fixed with wheel spacers, $100. Also with aftermarket control arms $150+. Sometimes adjusting the steering stop can help, .25 cents worth of washers.
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Get a 3 inch lift, cost you about $300 with steering stabilizer. You'll clear them fine. I am clearing JK rubi wheels and tires with it, only had to trim fender flare on the inside, and they are 33's.

As for power, I got a programmer(which I had from a wrangler), Cold air intake, and header, and have NO power lag.

Good Luck
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Originally Posted by jkjosh
Get a 3 inch lift, cost you about $300 with steering stabilizer. You'll clear them fine. I am clearing JK rubi wheels and tires with it, only had to trim fender flare on the inside, and they are 33's.

As for power, I got a programmer(which I had from a wrangler), Cold air intake, and header, and have NO power lag.

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huh? 33s with a 3 inch lift and no trimming? are you sure you have an xj? because unless you only drive on completely flat roads and go over no bumps, or anything like that. and you will still probably rub

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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
huh? 33s with a 3 inch lift and no trimming? are you sure you have an xj? because unless you only drive on completely flat roads and go over no bumps, or anything like that. and you will still probably rub
Here you go, you be the judge. Had it on the beach last night. With bumps. And like my orig post said, minor trimming on the inner fender flare.
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looks good.i have 33's with a 4 in and i stell rub but do a little more than the beach also 1.75 spacers

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Originally Posted by jkjosh
Here you go, you be the judge. Had it on the beach last night. With bumps. And like my orig post said, minor trimming on the inner fender flare.
still dont see how you're not rubbing. you must have some pretty big bumpstops, and how do you turn?
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yeah that rig would make me a bit nervous of screwing something up royaly
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
still dont see how you're not rubbing. you must have some pretty big bumpstops, and how do you turn?
With the steering wheel, lol. The tires/wheels are off a JK, so I have adapters to change the bolt pattern, and they are 1.5 in wide. The offset on the JKs isnt much, and they only stick out an inch or so.
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I'm at 6" in the front and 7 1/2" rear and I still rub at full flex. You can run those 265/75/16's with a 3" they are only 31.6" tall and 10.4" wide.


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