Question for 4cyl 5 speed owners
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From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
For those of you that have a 4 cylinder 5 speed. Can you climb a hill in 1st gear 4 low at idle without it stalling?
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From: Pampa, Texas
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 liter
Is this a trick question? Your signature cherokee is 4.0.
My 86 is a half a hemi, 4 speed and for the most part climbs anything in 4 low without stalling. Don't really know how big a hill your talking about, lol. Here in the panhandle of Texas anything taller than your garage is a mountain. If your in the Rockies of Colorado our mountains are considered speed bumps so......there you have it. I suppose everything is relative to where you are.
I think it's a trick question so you can make fun of my 2.5 Half Hemi.
I really enjoy my Cherokee, maybe just at a different level than the big 4OHS.
Happy Jeepin.
86 2 door, 2.5 liter, 4 speed, 3 inch lift, 30x9.50s15 tires, 3.54 gears stock
My 86 is a half a hemi, 4 speed and for the most part climbs anything in 4 low without stalling. Don't really know how big a hill your talking about, lol. Here in the panhandle of Texas anything taller than your garage is a mountain. If your in the Rockies of Colorado our mountains are considered speed bumps so......there you have it. I suppose everything is relative to where you are.
I think it's a trick question so you can make fun of my 2.5 Half Hemi.
I really enjoy my Cherokee, maybe just at a different level than the big 4OHS.
Happy Jeepin.
86 2 door, 2.5 liter, 4 speed, 3 inch lift, 30x9.50s15 tires, 3.54 gears stock
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From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Not a trick question at all, maybe I should have explained better. A buddy of mine has a 4 cyl TJ with 4.88 gears, 5 speed ,and 35s and in 4 low 1st gear it won't idle up the hill behind my house. The hill is maybe 30* at its steepest and it won't even make it to the steepest part without stalling. I figured with 4.88s it should have enough torque but maybe not.
His low gear ratio (crawl ratio) isn't that low. It would help a lot if his 5spd first gear ratio were lower. For instance a T-18's is 6.32 compared to his 3.92 (AX15?). Also 35's w/4.88's cuts down on the low gear ratio.
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From: Pampa, Texas
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 liter
Not sure I would even have tried to run 35" tires with a half hemi. My 30" tires didn't seem to effect much but that's fractionally taller than the stock setup.
Thanks for not beating up my little half hemi. lol
Happy Jeepin.


