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Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 07:16 AM

problem but not crazy...
 
Im thinking its a problem that most jeeps have but... I have a manual, I6, 88, with 160, 000 miles on it...-

This morning woke up to go to work, and no start... my gas guage doesn't work so I used my back up gas tank and filled the jeep at least 4 or 5 gallons... nothing

I checked all the fuses in the jeep its fine...

Went to the starter and checked it out and even cleaned it so there wasn't dirt on it, nothing so I did the cuban thing and smacked the starter with a hammer a couple of times to see if that would do anything nothing -.-

The car can go into ignition, and I can hear the starter trying but its not turning over ( I think that's the term)

Open to suggestions... I took the day off so technically its jeep time now :p

Roler Jan 24, 2014 07:22 AM

Battery good?
Not entirely sure what you mean : Does is 'crank' but wont start, or is the starter just very slow?

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 08:39 AM

I thought it mught be the battery so with my girls mom truck I tried jumping it... nothing...

I can hear the car wanting to turn on... sorry I'm probably saying it wrong

MikeTassjeep10 Jan 24, 2014 08:46 AM

So you have power or not? You can turn it to ignition but you jumped it? You have power but it doesn't start? Please clarify

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 08:49 AM

I have power... I can turn the ignition that I can hear the jeep cranking but no turn over...

MikeTassjeep10 Jan 24, 2014 08:53 AM

Hmm. I'd take a look into your starter a little more. Also if you have the tool test your battery and alternator. I know you have power now but start with electric, then move to fuel and air.

MikeTassjeep10 Jan 24, 2014 08:56 AM

Sounds weird but tap your cps LIGHTLY with a screw driver. Happened to me a couple times, tapped it a few times and started up. But that could also mean it's going bad. But def check all electrical first before you get into that. Check your terminals on the battery, check where the positive goes to the starter(the connection), same with alternator.

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 08:56 AM

U mean a multimeter?

MikeTassjeep10 Jan 24, 2014 08:58 AM

Yes, check your battery, and alternator.

fatboyadams Jan 24, 2014 09:14 AM

Pull the starter,battery and have them bench tested most auto part stores will do it for free

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 09:43 AM

Ok.. ill check those things at the auto parts, just gotta wait for a ride :p

884x4 Jan 24, 2014 10:11 AM

Any corrosion on the battery terminals? I had a no start situation because of that.
Like others posted, check battery, alt, starter, and clean some grounds while your at it
If that all doesn't work got to google and type in "cruiser54 mostly renix tips"
Go ahead and do ALL of them over a weekend or something. It will save you a headache in the future, good luck

BatmanXJ Jan 24, 2014 10:31 AM

To help you explain future problems:

No Crank= Engine/Motor not turning over

No Start= Engine/Motor not running

No Crank No Start= Neither of the above happen (Click Click, or absolutely nothing)
Common easy to test to an extent issues

Battery- Dead/Bad/loose or dirty connection

Starter- Bad/Loose or dirty connection

NSS (Netural Saftey Switch)-Automatic Transmission- Dirty/bad, Quick check that works sometimes put in neatural and see if it will crank. If it does its the NSS, If no it could still be that but its just a quick way to check.

Clutch Interlock switch- On a Manual- Bypass it or fix it

There are many other possible less common reasons


Crank, No Start= Engine/Motor turning over but not actually running

Fuel pump- Do you have fuel in jeep? Do you hear pump priming with turning on ignition before trying to crank? Do you have fuel pressure? Check with gauge

CPS (Crankshaft Position Sensor)- Loose/Dirty/Damaged/Bad. Test with OHM meter


However there are many different reasons for Crank, No Start those are just to of the most common.

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 10:33 AM

Ok... thanks batman :-) ill try and remember them...

Batman33165 Jan 24, 2014 10:38 AM

Anyways... I think I have a fuel... or fuel/ air mixture problem :p

As much as I did take everyone's advice I can't just stand around doing nothing, so I started to recheck fuses... looked at relays under the hood... any air lines and still it was nothing, checked spark plugs and wires... nothing -.-

A friend walt or 88whitecomanche gave me the idea of disconnecting the fuel line to the rail see if that's clogged and it was fine, reinstalled it and tried it again and bam! Jeep is alive... so I'm thinking now maybe it could be the fuel pump, not enough pressure?


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