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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Okay....

Seems like they don't know what it is other than blaming the alternator

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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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Okay....

I tell the shop to fix the alternator on Saturday. They tell me it will be done by that afternoon. Well I go on today, Monday at 10 am ( they open at 7 am) and it was not done. So they tell me will call me about lunch because it will be ready then. They call me at 12:30 ( I had to go in late to work for 2 days straight now due to this) and said it was ready, but they recommended I change my belt now, because my old one is now squealing. They said it would be 77 more dollars to do that. So i told them no, because i have a gatorback belt on that jeep and it is designed with teeth so it should never squeal. That is how it is designed and it has never squealed before and if it did they did something to it. I asked if otherwise it was ready. They told me yes and so i had someone take me down there again and when i got there it WASN'T ready. They also tried to charge me 400 dollars instead of the 350 dollars they quoted me (which i thought was a bit much for an alternator change anyways). Found out they were charging me for the diagnostic they previously told me went toward the cost of repair if i got it done there. Told me to come get it tomorrow. I went to the front to the sales office and asked to speak to the owner. I talked to him and he said I would get my quoted price of 350 and pay no more than that and he was going to personally bring it to me. He also agreed that my gatorback belt should not be squealing as it is designed not to.
Sounds like that shop needs to get there $hit together what rip off artist's
U could have done it yourself for $100
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Guess what................


The jeep broke down again with the same symptoms while they were on the way to bring it to me and had to be taken back to the shop. So still no resolution.

Yep...I kid you not.

There excuse now is possibly the ignition module?? They are going to hook the computer and fuel pressure gauges to it tomorrow and drive it till it quits again. I dunno why they didn't do that to begin with.

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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepxj99
Guess what................


The jeep broke down again with the same symptoms while they were on the way to bring it to me and had to be taken back to the shop. So still no resolution.

Yep...I kid you not.

There excuse now is possibly the ignition module?? They are going to hook the computer and fuel pressure gauges to it tomorrow and drive it till it quits again. I dunno why they didn't do that to begin with.
i wouldnt pay those retards a f'in dime
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stev-o
i wouldnt pay those retards a f'in dime
can anyone tell what the heck the ignition module even is? Because I don't even find that part anywhere.
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepxj99
can anyone tell what the heck the ignition module even is? Because I don't even find that part anywhere.
I think perhaps they mean ignition coil? It's kind of between the alternator and distributor on the passenger side of the engine.
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Programbo
I think perhaps they mean ignition coil? It's kind of between the alternator and distributor on the passenger side of the engine.
i bet its your cps because it ran untill they got it hot driving it to u
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Programbo
I think perhaps they mean ignition coil? It's kind of between the alternator and distributor on the passenger side of the engine.
Yeah that is the only thing I could think it would mean
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stev-o
i bet its your cps because it ran untill they got it hot driving it to u
would this always give a code for CEL or is that not always the case?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Your symptoms are identical to the problems I was having. I put in a new CPS (CRANK position sensor) and voila! No more problems.
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Your symptoms are identical to the problems I was having. I put in a new CPS (CRANK position sensor) and voila! No more problems.
did you get a check engine light? That logged a code? And yours cut off going down the highway?
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No CEL for CPS on a Renix Jeep, not sure if it would throw a code on a '99 but I can tell you this, something is wrong with your Jeep whether it's giving you a code or not. They symptoms you've described are exactly what I had when my CPS gave up. I was at a red light and I felt a little sputter, the light turned green and I drove away. It seemed okay for a few seconds, then it died. I tried restarting but it just cranked and cranked. Sometimes it tried to start but sputtered and died. I let it sit for a couple minutes and it started right up. I immediately drove it home, to within a block and it died again. A friend towed me back to my house (because it refused to start). The next morning it started right up and as soon as I pulled out of the driveway it died.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by F1Addict
No CEL for CPS on a Renix Jeep, not sure if it would throw a code on a '99 but I can tell you this, something is wrong with your Jeep whether it's giving you a code or not. They symptoms you've described are exactly what I had when my CPS gave up. I was at a red light and I felt a little sputter, the light turned green and I drove away. It seemed okay for a few seconds, then it died. I tried restarting but it just cranked and cranked. Sometimes it tried to start but sputtered and died. I let it sit for a couple minutes and it started right up. I immediately drove it home, to within a block and it died again. A friend towed me back to my house (because it refused to start). The next morning it started right up and as soon as I pulled out of the driveway it died.
I just talked to another local mechanic and he said CPS too or he said maybe the fuel pump was getting hot. Either or sounded right to him.

And I'm not disagreeing with you over the CPS either. I have thought of it already and have mentioned it to the repair shop. They are supposed to be monitoring it.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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sounds like a cps problem. its located on the bell housing. check it out. i never got a code for my cps.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Please replace your CPS!!

In all the 4.0 engines, the CPS will eventually fail, there r many threads on this.
Your symptoms match a malfunctioning CPS from the start including the prodromes with bucking, cutting out/stalling, your shop did some expensive repair that didnt fix it. And yes, it can malfunction wothout throwing a code.
Have it replaced by a good quality one, aftermarket ones might still be giving you trouble, and leave you with the thought that "that couldnt be it anymore".

So, dont go throwing money at things till after the CPS is changed (even for future reference this will be a good thing).
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