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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Just got a 87 Cherokee Laredo to wheel in on the weekends. I took it out for the first time this weekend, and low and behold, it broke. I was on a hill and the tranny would not come out of first gear. I got it out eventually by jerking it into neutral. Now I have no drivetrain at all. It is like the clutch is completely out. It will not move in gear and will go in and out of gear without having to use the clutch. Peugeot BA 10/5 tranny and NP231 t/c. Was working fine up until it got bound up in first. Any help would be great.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Peugeot BA 10/5 tranny
I've heard little good about those. Seems a lot of folks toss them and put in one of the AX series transmissions, like so:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/tra...ax-15-a-85445/

However that doesn't help you short term. I know very little about the Peugeot trans, but do know there is no external linkage so the shift mechanism has to be inside somewhere. Might be worth pulling the top cover, assuming there is one, and seeing if the shift forks and related parts are where they're supposed to be. Sure sounds like something snapped or shifted out of position. Sorry I can't be of more help, hopefully others will know more about that trans.

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:52 PM
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Don't know about this trans, but a friend had an M5 go out in his F150 and acted similar to this, stuck in one gear, but his would go forward, and even in reverse it would go forward lol. We pulled it and opened it up and there were bearings and gears everywhere inside, and not where they were supposed to be.

If you are able to shift it with the motor running without using the clutch and it isn't moving, sounds like something broke at the input shaft end. If you are really lucky you just stripped the center out of the clutch disk somehow.

When the motor is running and you move the clutch in and out, can you hear the transmission start and stop turning? If you can hear some gear noise start and stop with the clutch then the clutch is still working.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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I can't really tell if it is engaging inside or not. I guess I am just going to have to pull it and see. The thing that sucks about it if it is an input shaft, is that I can get a tranny for damn near the same price as it will cost for the shaft. Looks like I am getting the "shaft" no matter how I look at it on this deal. LOL. Seriously though, I appreciate the responses.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Yea, my friend took his to a transmission shop and for what it would have cost to rebuild he could buy 3 used ones from a junkyard. First one he got he had to return because it was newer and didn't have the fitting for a gear driven speedo, second time was correct tranny but we spent the night crawling around under the truck installing during a freezing drizzle outside.

(I don't think I ever stood in a hot shower that long trying to warm up afterwards in all my life lol)
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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Not sure if this will help any but.... my buddy has the Peugeot in his YJ and had a similar problem with it "feeling" like it was going in and out of gear with no clutch but the jeep wouldn't move. On the driver's side of the trans right below where the shifter goes into the trans is a" keyhole" for a screw that holds the linkage down. His fell out and it popped the linkage out far enough for it not to engage the gears.
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