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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by REVIS 24
im not a rock crawler but , its just like being on a steep hill at a red light and someone stops right on your ***,,what would you rather have stick shift or an auto in that situation ?
Doesn't matter. That's what the handbrake is for.

Clutch in. Pull up handbrake. Take foot off of brake. Clutch/gas like normal while releasing the handbrake, and enjoy driving off without rolling backwards.

I only have to use that trick on super steep hills, and only when some DB is right on my bumper.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by REVIS 24
i have auto and love it , iv had 5 speed all my life and im sick of shifting ,and besides that you can get on and off the gas a lot smoother for technical stuff
thats because a manual is horrible in new jersey traffic.
when youre constantly shifting in and out of first it gets old.


when you can actually drive with one, its much more fun.

gotta love jersey.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by REVIS 24
im not a rock crawler but , its just like being on a steep hill at a red light and someone stops right on your ***,,what would you rather have stick shift or an auto in that situation ?
Auto is much easier, but in that situation I just apply parking brake so jeep doesn't roll backwards, then ease the e-brake off at the same time I am applying gas and getting vehicle to roll forward when light turns green so the vehicle doesn't roll backwards at all.

edit.. looks like someone got to that before me.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherokee
thats because a manual is horrible in new jersey traffic.
when youre constantly shifting in and out of first it gets old.


when you can actually drive with one, its much more fun.

gotta love jersey.
I love my 5 speed and live in Jersey. The traffic's annoying, but I don't mind going in and out of first. I also love the ability to scare the crap out of the guy in the Beemer who stopped half an inch from your *** on a hill. Also, in 4 Lo you can put it in first, let off the clutch without touching the gas at all, and idle up a 45* hill with no problem.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BeepBeepImaJeep
id rather have big spikes on my rear bumper then drop it into rev and floor it....
lolol
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 96Cherokee113
I love my 5 speed and live in Jersey. The traffic's annoying, but I don't mind going in and out of first. I also love the ability to scare the crap out of the guy in the Beemer who stopped half an inch from your *** on a hill. Also, in 4 Lo you can put it in first, let off the clutch without touching the gas at all, and idle up a 45* hill with no problem.
which part of jersey? I live in Tabernacle, so Cherry hill traffic on 70 and 73 is maddening.

I still think its more fun, but it is definitely more fun out here in Arizona where I dont even have to think about traffic. just nice long uncrowded roads.

joy driving is a sport again out here. back in nj its just stressful, unless you head more south or east from where my house is.


oh: and scaring the crap out of beemers is so much fun. I do purposely let go of the brake but dont release the clutch for a second so that they get a little freaked i might hit em
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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I prefer manual, only had 1 manual XJ tho. I would have to make sure it has 3.7'3 or better tho if I get one again.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Yes it has been said and mostly proven 5 speed are better in pulling heavy loads from a dead stop and squeezing more mph, but in heavy stop and go traffic, clutching every few feet is a real pain in the legs. Stop and go on steep hills can be a new experience until you learn how to get around the sliding backwards. Nothings better than pretending your Mario Andredy and reving the engine and shifting the gears. Never said I could spell. The only problem I see with a 5-speed is what happens when your out with the someone and you get Hurt bad enough and can't drive and the other people your with don't know how to drive a stick. An Automatic begins to look really good at that point. I've also been on mountain roads in PA that were posted "Down on the HOUR - Up on the HALF". there was not enough room for 2 vehicles and took 20 minutes in low range to get down and 4L back up. Never really wanted to try these types of trails and have to worry about Clutch-Shift-Brake-Gas when the jeep starts sliding. Working just the Brake and Gas was easier than staring at the drop off just waiting for me.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Vindicator9000
Doesn't matter. That's what the handbrake is for.

Clutch in. Pull up handbrake. Take foot off of brake. Clutch/gas like normal while releasing the handbrake, and enjoy driving off without rolling backwards.

I only have to use that trick on super steep hills, and only when some DB is right on my bumper.
if your nice with the clutch u dont need the handbrake ...

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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i use my engine to slow be down and use breaks at the same time put it in 3rd and let go of clutch slowly and step on the breaks. and when some idiot decides to pull infront of me using the engine and breaks seams to stop the car alot faster than just the breaks alone. thats my opinion ... cant do that in an automatic
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigclubs
The only problem I see with a 5-speed is what happens when your out with the someone and you get Hurt bad enough and can't drive and the other people your with don't know how to drive a stick. An Automatic begins to look really good at that point.
my parents made me get my license w/ a stick shift for that point alone
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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i love my 5 speed cherokee! Its fun to drive, and i get better mpg's, but i guess it really just comes down to what the driver prefers.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnar89
i use my engine to slow be down and use breaks at the same time put it in 3rd and let go of clutch slowly and step on the breaks. and when some idiot decides to pull infront of me using the engine and breaks seams to stop the car alot faster than just the breaks alone. thats my opinion ... cant do that in an automatic
Impossible, the brakes alone will always stop better then trying to use engine braking and regular braking, look at it like this, your tires only have so much traction for accelerating, braking and turning, and you can lock up the brakes if you really hammer on them, meaning the brakes alone can use 100% of the tires traction for slowing a vehicle down and trying to use the engine in the braking process will do nothing but upset the natural balance of the vehicle (unless you are a professional) and cause unnecessary wear on the clutch.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsandine
Impossible, the brakes alone will always stop better then trying to use engine braking and regular braking, look at it like this, your tires only have so much traction for accelerating, braking and turning, and you can lock up the brakes if you really hammer on them, meaning the brakes alone can use 100% of the tires traction for slowing a vehicle down and trying to use the engine in the braking process will do nothing but upset the natural balance of the vehicle (unless you are a professional) and cause unnecessary wear on the clutch.
true but if u lock your tires u lose traction on the road. making it imposible to turn or move out of the way of the thing ur stoping for. iv been in many crashes in witch case the drive locked the breaks witch pretty much made us go into the crash. using the engine and breaks as 75% breaks and 25% engine +\- and having power going to ur tires and same time stomping on the breaks helps keep them from locking but still stopping your as fast or faster. and iv tested my theory and i stop alot faster with the engine engaged and using breaks than stepping in clutch and breaks. im not trying to be rude or anything but it seams to work alot better for me.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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yah, I can't think of any situation where you would want to lock up your brakes, I was just using that as an example as the brakes are capable of using all the available traction for stopping, if you are familiar with threshold braking that pretty much sums it all up about how stopping with brakes is better than brakes and engine, but I highly doubt anyone has ever applied the threshold braking technique in a jeep. I guess it just comes down to personal preference, I only use the brakes as brake pads are much cheaper than a clutch, but if someone likes using engine and brakes to slow them down its not going to damage anything, maybe just a little excess wear on the clutch from more engagemant/disengagement.
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