manual to auto
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From: glencoe
Year: 1999
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: blown 4.7
I agree, I made my car a manual because I hate autos in my toys
How many V8 5spd Thunderbirds have you seen
Generally you just need the trans controller and wiring drive shafts and switch shifters. Pretty straight forward, might I suggest upgrading to a newer engine management system.

Generally you just need the trans controller and wiring drive shafts and switch shifters. Pretty straight forward, might I suggest upgrading to a newer engine management system.
I agree, I made my car a manual because I hate autos in my toys
How many V8 5spd Thunderbirds have you seen
Generally you just need the trans controller and wiring drive shafts and switch shifters. Pretty straight forward, might I suggest upgrading to a newer engine management system.

Generally you just need the trans controller and wiring drive shafts and switch shifters. Pretty straight forward, might I suggest upgrading to a newer engine management system.
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From: glencoe
Year: 1999
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: blown 4.7

I'm actually looking forward to gaining the knowledge of rebuilding a 5spd once I kill my first.
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L High Output
I gotta agree that I always prefer a 5-speed tranny in my vehicles. But my XJ is only the second automatic I have owned and the AW4 is a great transmission. It shifts smooth and downshifts nice and quick. It may not last as long as an AX-15 might last, but these little wutos can last lot longer than most. Not a five speed but it gets the job done.
Also the advantages of an automatic offroad are hard to ignore. Torque multiplication from the torque converter moving the vehicle from a halt. No risk of stalling. Both hands are free and available for steering (or one for steering, and one for hanging on!). It's alot easier to use both the gas and the brake when climbing or crawling. Above all, you left leg isn't tired and sore the next day from playin the clutch in and out all day while wheelin.
Also the advantages of an automatic offroad are hard to ignore. Torque multiplication from the torque converter moving the vehicle from a halt. No risk of stalling. Both hands are free and available for steering (or one for steering, and one for hanging on!). It's alot easier to use both the gas and the brake when climbing or crawling. Above all, you left leg isn't tired and sore the next day from playin the clutch in and out all day while wheelin.
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I gotta agree that I always prefer a 5-speed tranny in my vehicles. But my XJ is only the second automatic I have owned and the AW4 is a great transmission. It shifts smooth and downshifts nice and quick. It may not last as long as an AX-15 might last, but these little wutos can last lot longer than most. Not a five speed but it gets the job done.
Also the advantages of an automatic offroad are hard to ignore. Torque multiplication from the torque converter moving the vehicle from a halt. No risk of stalling. Both hands are free and available for steering (or one for steering, and one for hanging on!). It's alot easier to use both the gas and the brake when climbing or crawling. Above all, you left leg isn't tired and sore the next day from playin the clutch in and out all day while wheelin.
Also the advantages of an automatic offroad are hard to ignore. Torque multiplication from the torque converter moving the vehicle from a halt. No risk of stalling. Both hands are free and available for steering (or one for steering, and one for hanging on!). It's alot easier to use both the gas and the brake when climbing or crawling. Above all, you left leg isn't tired and sore the next day from playin the clutch in and out all day while wheelin.
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L High Output
Very true, with experience a manual can be very useful off road. The immediate throttle reponse is great too. I guess the best way to sum it up is that the auto is just easier. Get in, press go pedal. I would never actually get rid of a manual to swap to an auto though. All I'm sayin is that they can be tolerated, even enjoyed, on the trail. I've been keepin my eye out for a good 2WD 2dr 5spd 4.0L XJ for a street build, on the street there is no substitute for a manual. It's just plain better!
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From: Ohio
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4cyl
I've been following this post because Im thinking of doing the same swap (5sp to Auto). What about the trans computer and TPS etc... I'm also guessing the trans computer somehow sends a signal to the computer. Or is it as easy as swapping out trans, shifter, and pedals?
I've been following this post because Im thinking of doing the same swap (5sp to Auto). What about the trans computer and TPS etc... I'm also guessing the trans computer somehow sends a signal to the computer. Or is it as easy as swapping out trans, shifter, and pedals?
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From: Wichita, KS
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0l I6
Well if any of you wierd dudes transfer to an auto. Ill buy your 5 spd. I got an auto and want a 5 spd. I got a 4.0l I6 and would like to go to a manual. How hard is that to cut a hole to line it all up?


