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Old 11-06-2009, 02:06 PM
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i read somewhere that the 96 and up 4.0's the intake swap will go right in... found acouple write ups on 98's and they didnt have any problems... igot a 96 and a 01 intake... and this power steering bracket aint working... i also grabbed thebracket off the 01 and it looks alot like the 96 but the back side is different... ill go take some pics of why it wont work... but neither bracket is anywhere close lol... this sucks... not only this but the header i put on off the 01 has a different flange line up so i also gotta go to the exhaust shop after i get it going.... this is NOT going very well...
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yeah i found that and ran to the JY... got what i needed... i got a 96 motor but everything else is still 89... thats whats got me all screwed up... now the fuel rail is screwed up... everyone says use the stock but my 89 dont line up right for the mounts... only the injectors and the mounts are kinda in the way... the newermodel fuel rail doesnt have a spot for the fuel to go back to the tank... and my jeep does... will this do anything if i use the new rail and just leave the overflow line off? or do i need to go to the JY and get a dang fuel rail also?
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this is the link ive been going off of... but im in big doodoo... not only does the rail not line up but i cant use the 01 rail cause the hookups on the other end and it wont reach... not only that the throttle cable hooks up different... so i need the litte bracket from a 96+ also... which heck... i dont even know if my throttle cable is going to be right to even make that work! this sucks... if everything else is renix... this is deff not worth it... anyone got any info on if the throttle cables are the same from 89 to 96+ at least? i may be getting the fuel line of a 96+ so itll reach to the other end... guess ill be the first to do a write up on doing this with a renix... sucks...
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99+ Intake won't work on a Renix motor...period.
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my motor isnt a renix... its a 96... but everything around it seems to be old renix stuff... is it possibe to put a 96 motor in my jeep and use the safe wire harness? this is the throttle body on my jeep now... which is wired up fine... i have the TB from the 01 but it dont even come close...

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get a 96-98 fuel rail, that will work. hook up the feed and return fuel line as well as the pressur regulator line...I don't understand how you can not have the return line hooked up. that's just stupid. figure out how to put it back into play.

the injectors you have now will work.

the 2000 intake will work with the 96 head. you will not be able to use the dual manifolds from the 00, you'll need the manifold from a 91-97/98.

which bracket are you talking about? the aluminum part of the 96 bracket can get tossed. you just need the metal part. and the idler pulley/adjuster. then drill out the threads in the pump and slide 3 matched thread longer bolts in to bolt the pump DIRECTLY to the intake manifold. there is no bracketry between the pump and the manifold
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ive got the power steering pump on and mounted now that i got the bracket from the JY off a 98... its all good to go... didnt have to drill anything out actually... used the same bolts and everything went together fine... the 2001fuel rail doesnt have a return... buddy says the ford focus does this also... but i will get a rail and longer fuel lines from the body to the fuel rail from a 98 also... then that should be good... then i run into the square TB thats on it now... either reusing it... or using the 01 or maybe have to get a 98ish... idunno... they all bolt to the intake but the way the cables and linkage are i dunno what will work... oh and the wiring for the sensors... there different... am i going to end up getting a dang wire harness and a newer computer? it seem this guy just swapped the block and heads and that aint gonna work... i want my junk right... and i cant go back to the other intake cause its wrong... and i dont like that...
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alittle bump... before i go to bed... got a head ache from this thing...
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sorry, went out drinking.


you'll either need to make a TPS adapter for the throttle body, or you'll need to make a mounting bracket (basically a throttle body spacer/adapter plate) to put the renix throttle body on it.

you'll need a 91+ throttle cable. the other ones should work out just fine.

...I hope you didn't just bolt a few bolts shorter than 1" through the front mounting bracket for the p/s pump into the pulley. the bolts for this manifold/ p/s pump are supposed to go through the 96+ bracket, through the pump, and into the 2001 manifold. they're about 2.5" long or so.

yours is a unique setup due to the renix combination. your computer will work just fine. swap the IAC sensor from the renix manifold into the 2000 manifold.
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naw ur good... i was just seeing if anyone else had some insite before i went to bed... with a day like i had yesterday... i should have gotten wasted... but bout to get started this morining... so maybe itll be tonight instead... lol... do you know if the throttle cables are the same on ZJ's and XJ's? ive got 94-98 ZJ's and old as dirt xjs... actually if its just 91 then i should be ok in finding one... and the bracket used to hold it for the TB i should be able to find like in the write ups and maybe make it work... its not going to be fun laying on the floorboard of a JY XJ though to get the cable... this is gonna suck... lol...

oh and with the PS pump all the hardware i used off the newer model although its really the same hardware i took off... the 89 setup uses the same rhardware as the 96-98 but different brackets... everything bolted in the same holes good and tight and pretty... do have to get a longer belt though... i found the gatorback belt PN but im not spendin $35 on a belt... im gonna find the reg duralast numbers... i would think i could just look up a 98's belt and it should be fine... but the gatorback PN for this year is different then the writeups PN that he used... its close so im thinking he shotguned it till he found that one worked... but the "right" one is for a 98is...

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the cable takes about 4 clips to pop out...very easy.

get a 91-96 cable bracket. it's bolted on with 3 10mm bolts. you *may* be able to use the 2000 bracket, but I'm not sure.

there *may* be some custom work to the kickdown (TV) cable that goes to the aw4 transmission (if yours is auto), but I think they're identical.
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also ive been looking around for this TPS adapter to make and cant find a single write up... however i did find Hesco makes one but thats when worse comes to worse because its freakin $135.... even if i had a pic of one im sure i could make one if it doesnt take crazy tools... or if anyone else knows a secret write up somewhere... but im gonna keep looking as this might be the killer for me... also are the 99-01 TB's the same as the 96-98? or do i need to find a 96-98 throttle body also to make all the sensors work... thanks again!
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the cable takes about 4 clips to pop out...very easy.

get a 91-96 cable bracket. it's bolted on with 3 10mm bolts. you *may* be able to use the 2000 bracket, but I'm not sure.

there *may* be some custom work to the kickdown (TV) cable that goes to the aw4 transmission (if yours is auto), but I think they're identical.
the new bracket is nowhere close to working... the renix is a weird setup and i got a 5 speed so the kickdown im good on... and no cruise... so good there also... i guess you have either read alot about this or done it yourself but i just read abunch on a renix/ho swap (which is basically what im finishing for the idiot now) but none say anything about swapping the fuel lines to reach the other end... am i missing something or is everyone else forgetting to mention this? lol
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here's some info on the intake in my build thread https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/mj...e-6058/index2/

I'll try and dig up info on the tps


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