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Old 10-19-2012, 08:54 AM
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Had a slow start yesterday in my 01, and again this morning. Dropped off my kid and no crank . Lights, power radio all work. Tried jump , nothing. What order should I try to test /replace? Starter,relay, tps,cps,NSs, alt, wires? Any help appreciated. Thanks
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Try to start in neutral?

If it will not crank at all then you're looking at:

NSS
Battery Connection
Starter
Ignition

If it won't start in neutral put the Jeep in park, turn the key to the ON position and set the parking brake.

Climb under the Jeep and short the starter solenoid. If the battery, starter and connections are good then the Jeep will start.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about you'd best find someone else to do that.


I'd start with putting the battery on a charger at the least.

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Join the club, my battery meter pegged the low side this week, had alternator tested and it was fine, battery tested bad first then good (leaning towards a bad battery). My starter shouldnt have any problems as mine will jump off no problem. Pull your battery, have it load tested, have your alternator bench tested, maybe pull your starter and have it bench tested also.
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Had the Autozone battery test say good, and I guess it read Alt and Starter also, which they said was good as well.... SO I guess I start trouble shooting. I really wish I listened to my self and didn't take this morning and the sketchy crank , as now its dead at my Mother In laws Apartment 25 minutes from my house, and all my tools at home :-/
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Bench testing the alt and starter is different then the little diagnostic test they do when they hook it up to your battery.
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I figured, so Should I just pull them and take in somewhere?
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I figured, so Should I just pull them and take in somewhere?
yes. i would also bring the bat in again let them load test it.
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got a buddy willing to tow me home, So I will try the starter tap and then start in Neutral first...
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Try starting in neutral. If you've got power and no crank, it's more than likely either the Neutral Safety Switch or the starter.
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Sounds like the starter to me. A very simple socket set will get that puppy off, take it to the parts store to test it and replace as needed.
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Thabks all getting dragged gone by a buddy IDE rather pay more for a starter then replace another NSS !! Lol my last xj ate them
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That was a Scary Ride!!!! 18 miles manual brakes and steering with a lunch box acting up..

Now shes home, time to trouble shoot.

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Were you getting a click or anything when you tried to crank?
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I get nothing. Turn key and all electrical comes on, but when turn all the way to fire, nada...
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I've had a similar problem twice. Once was the NSS. The other time a small plastic piece of the key cylinder broke and wasn't allowing the key to turn all the way to ignition. Easy swap except that I had to buy a whole steering column from the jy.


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