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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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<<<<<<<< rather not have fire coming out of my jeep. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EVcherokee
Yeah when I was a kid I saw lots of these setups. I've never seen one on a EFI motor though, just a carb motor. A carb motor will continue to suck gas as long as the motor is turning, where a EFI motor will cut the fuel if the ignition is off and the exhaust shouldn't have any unburned fuel in it. Has anybody done this to an EFI motor? just curious

The trick was to get up to cruising speed, leave it in gear and turn the ignition off. This basicly fills your entire exhuast with unburned fuel. Turn your ignition back on(being careful not to grind your starter gear) stomp the skinny pedal and ground the rear plug at the same time. Loud as hell bang and a flame that'll make anybody back off! By charging your exhaust up you have a flame that lasts and goes further out the more you accelerate. You can do it too by revving the motor, but its more of a flash flame. Either one is fairly dramatic at night!

I've blown up a couple mufflers doing this, so there is a bit of risk if you don't do it right. Peeled one open like a banana. Your susceptible to this if your exhaust valves are leaking.

lol...I didn't even know they made kits for this, we always made our own. Seein as how only a couple guys even know what this is, your makin me feel like a dinosaur
I remember guys doing this in the '60's. I also remember several blown up mufflers. My neighbor had a '63 Impala he did it with all the time.
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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seems like a waste on an XJ.

but im a function over form guy.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Your "method" is completely irresponsible and quite dangerous. I'd never suggest anyone doing what you are suggesting. No offense.
No offense taken! BTW it wasn't "my" method it was "the" method. Leaving it in gear while your moving just got you a bigger bang and a huge long flame that lasted, because you where leaving a trail of gas fumes behind your car. Stopping the skinny just pushed the unburned fuel out even faster giving you a nice fire ball.

LOL..."irresponsible and quite dangerous" amounted to about 33% of my teenage childhood, considering 16hrs in a day for sleep and school.

I didn't quite understand what you meant by cutting spark at the plug, but now I get it. So, it sounds like the same thing as turning off the ignition on a carb motor, your still filling the exhaust with unburned fuel. Seems like you still run the same risks though if you have leaky exhaust valves. I don't really see the difference, unless I'm missing something. You can do the retro method standing still too like I said.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
seems like a waste on an XJ.

but im a function over form guy.
This. seems cool for a show truck or car, but for something that goes on a jeep that is actually taken off road sounds like a bad idea.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
I would get the kit.. Since im already in the process of the true dual exhaust.. This would top it off nicely.. One pipe coming out on each side of the jeep with outward flames...

Just make sure you've got enough back-pressure, otherwise it'll run like crap. Where are you planning on dumping the exhaust at - straight out the back, corners, sides?

As for the flame thrower kit, I really can't see it on a XJ. Granted it's a cool idea, I love seeing them on older show cars, but that's about it. Oh, and EVcherokee, don't feel like a dinosaur, I'm only 28 and knew what they were.

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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
seems like a waste on an XJ.

but im a function over form guy.
I'm not sure I agree that it'd be a waste, considering some "mods" others have done. But in the sense that it provides nothing but a cool conversation piece and some cool looks, yeah, it provides no function.

I just saw the rediculous cost of an incomplete kit, knew I could do the same, offer more, and provide it all for less, and thought I'd offer here to anyone who would be interested.

Originally Posted by EVcherokee
No offense taken! BTW it wasn't "my" method it was "the" method. Leaving it in gear while your moving just got you a bigger bang and a huge long flame that lasted, because you where leaving a trail of gas fumes behind your car. Stopping the skinny just pushed the unburned fuel out even faster giving you a nice fire ball.

LOL..."irresponsible and quite dangerous" amounted to about 33% of my teenage childhood, considering 16hrs in a day for sleep and school.

I didn't quite understand what you meant by cutting spark at the plug, but now I get it. So, it sounds like the same thing as turning off the ignition on a carb motor, your still filling the exhaust with unburned fuel. Seems like you still run the same risks though if you have leaky exhaust valves. I don't really see the difference, unless I'm missing something. You can do the retro method standing still too like I said.
I'm really, really, really, glad you didn't take offense. Looking back at that post, you could have taken it the wrong way, cuz I did come off like a complete ***.

I just got worried when I read the post. I didn't want any users seeing it, getting the WRONG idea, doing it wrong, and hurting themselves or anyone else. Not to mention pissing off a moderator.

The main difference between my style and yours is they key vs a switch.

For 'your' (I realize its not yours!) method, you have to turn the key off. To fill the exhaust with enough fuel you'd have to have it completely off for at least a couple seconds. If you are moving, this WILL lock your steering wheel and create the potential for severe problems. Especially if you attempt this on the freeway/highway.

I've already explained how my setup works, so I won't again. But the spark is interruped before the coil, or at the coil, depending on vehicle.

Originally Posted by northline76
This. seems cool for a show truck or car, but for something that goes on a jeep that is actually taken off road sounds like a bad idea.
I dunno how it sounds like a "bad" idea. I don't recommend you blast flames while on the trail. I don't suggest lighting trees/brush/whatever on fire.

However, if you are at the trail head, waiting for others to air down, or after when your airing up, just sitting around hanging out...thats when it could be fun.

Originally Posted by no rdplz
As for the flame thrower kit, I really can't see it on a XJ. Granted it's a cool idea, I love seeing them on older show cars, but that's about it. Oh, and EVcherokee, don't feel like a dinosaur, I'm only 28 and knew what they were.

I'm 25 and have known about them my whole life. I think background has more to do with it than age. I started with "old" cars, so it was common for me.

Come on, you don't want an extra cigarette lighter on your Jeep? Not to mention zombies won't like the fire.


I'll try to get a vid posted. The home computer has been tempermental. Gives blue screen of death all the time, and won't do what I ask most of the time. I may have to hit a buddies house tonight or the library or something. Sorry for the delay. :/
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherokee 91
Now that would be awesome!!! haha. But the trails and fire coming out of your tailpipe No Good.. Tree huggers would love to see that so they could shut some more up. Just like spark arresters on four wheelers
I know right give the goverment the ammunition the need to start shutting down offroad parks and such across the county more of an on the road upgrade as cool as it would look. But with cool looks aside you have to remember the 10% rule. The operator needs to be 10% smarter then the object they are are operating and in some cases the operators definitely dont reach that margin and it would be them that drive it down the trail thinks "hey what a great time to show off a litte" then next thing you know youve got a forest fire started good idea wrong target enviroment.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by almostgotacj
I know right give the goverment the ammunition the need to start shutting down offroad parks and such across the county more of an on the road upgrade as cool as it would look. But with cool looks aside you have to remember the 10% rule. The operator needs to be 10% smarter then the object they are are operating and in some cases the operators definitely dont reach that margin and it would be them that drive it down the trail thinks "hey what a great time to show off a litte" then next thing you know youve got a forest fire started good idea wrong target enviroment.
"There is a time and place for everything."

Just cuz you decide to buy and install any flame thrower kit (mine or other) doesn't mean you should use it all the time.

You are dead nuts on with the 10% rule.

But its just like the other saying, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Or

If you can blame guns for killing someone, I can blame my pensil for misspelled words.

The flamethrower kit won't be needed to fuel the governments fire. Its the foolish wheelers that do. I'm sure if they don't cause problems with flamethrower kits, they'll find other ways.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
"There is a time and place for everything."

Just cuz you decide to buy and install any flame thrower kit (mine or other) doesn't mean you should use it all the time.

You are dead nuts on with the 10% rule.

But its just like the other saying, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Or

If you can blame guns for killing someone, I can blame my pensil for misspelled words.

The flamethrower kit won't be needed to fuel the governments fire. Its the foolish wheelers that do. I'm sure if they don't cause problems with flamethrower kits, they'll find other ways.
I agree with you 100% in this aspect. I just think that putting ideas out there like that, which even though they have been around for years and cant be said if its been done on any ohv or not, its mainly a safety issue. As an offroader for a long time i have seen the change in the way people treat the enviroment around them and how much they dont realize the impact they have on the land around them, we drive several thousand pound trucks over land that isnt as forgiving as the asphalt we normally drive on and that should be enough, but adding something like a flame thrower to an ohv is just not a good idea in my opinion. Also with that being said people are to blame and thats all its gonna take to ruin the fun for everyone.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by almostgotacj
I agree with you 100% in this aspect. I just think that putting ideas out there like that, which even though they have been around for years and cant be said if its been done on any ohv or not, its mainly a safety issue. As an offroader for a long time i have seen the change in the way people treat the enviroment around them and how much they dont realize the impact they have on the land around them, we drive several thousand pound trucks over land that isnt as forgiving as the asphalt we normally drive on and that should be enough, but adding something like a flame thrower to an ohv is just not a good idea in my opinion. Also with that being said people are to blame and thats all its gonna take to ruin the fun for everyone.
Well, the kits/mods have been around for decades, have been installed on plenty of vehicles, both on and off road intended. I have yet to hear of any issues so far, I'm guessing it'll continue similarly.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
I would get the kit.. Since im already in the process of the true dual exhaust.. This would top it off nicely.. One pipe coming out on each side of the jeep with outward flames...
how r u gonna do true dual with stock engine
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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I couldn't find the clip on youtube, but the movie was called "Macon county line". The original one starring Don Johnston and Nick Nolte.

They were racing a sleeper in the 1950's & the giant flames coming out of the exhaust was supposed to give the car tons more power, about like Nitrous oxide would.
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Sounds...Awesome!!
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Old Dec 1, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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just 2 years ago, i saw a '47 Ford pickup and me and my dad noticed the huge tail pipes on it and asked the guy why they were so big. and he went through and explaned (cant quite remember wat he said). well anyway, his setup was to have a spark plug in each tail pipe and they were wired to a switch and the lite up cuz back in the day they had a choke on trucks. he pulled the choke, flipped a switch and ta-da! instant 5ft. horizontal BBQ.

dont know if that method was already said and thats my 2 cents
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