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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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Default Downstream O2 sensor trip CEL?

I had a prior thread, but figured I would make this it's own thread. I've been having terrible gas mileage, and i'm trying to track down the problem. I rented a diagnostic scanner from VatoZone, ran the complete test, O2 sensors came back ok, but the catalytic converter test came back "Inc". Messing with the Jeep yesterday, and removed the downstream O2 sensor from the exhaust (left it plugged in, though). Drove around with it just hanging there for about 10-15 minutes (got it up to operating temp) and the CEL never came on. My question is, removing the downstream O2 sensor from the exhaust should trip the CEL, correct?
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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No, you just tricked the PCM into thinking the cat convertor is working. The upstream O2 should switch between rich and lean pretty fast and steady, but the downstream O2 will stay pretty flat if the cat convertor is functioning.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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What if I unplug and remove it completely, that should trip it, right?
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Keep it plugged in to the harnes.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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I'm not going to leave it unplugged, it's just a test. I'm not sure if there's a problem with my OBD, and is supposed to be throwing a CEL but isn't. Something's not right, i'm just trying to figure out what it is.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Not plugged in = CEL, plugged in but not screwed in = no CEL.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Got it...thanks!
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