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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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Hi Everyone,

New Guy to the Forum, Old Guy to Cars and Trucks.

Just got a 1999 Cherokee Sport for my Son.

The Instrument Back Lights are not working.

They flickered on once (green) then went out.

So far we have checked the #6 and #9 fuse which are good.
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Replaced the in dash headlight switch.

My next guess would be the back light on the cluster?

Anyone have a vid or write up on how to replace the back light
on the cluster.
or
Any help on further tracking down the problem.


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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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When you say the "back light on the cluster" do you mean the dash lights for the gauges?

If so its easy to replace these gauge lights, there is one behind every gauge. You will need 74's for the gauges. You may also want to upgrade to LED lights. Here's the link for the dash light mod : https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/xj-...126507/index2/

To get to the lights you need to remove the dash bezel, should be 4 screws. Then there are a few screws that hold the cluster in. Pull the cluster toward you and disconnect the electrical connectors on the back. Then twist the bulb sockets out of the cluster and put new bulbs in.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rmoore1031
When you say the "back light on the cluster" do you mean the dash lights for the gauges?

If so its easy to replace these gauge lights, there is one behind every gauge. You will need 74's for the gauges. You may also want to upgrade to LED lights. Here's the link for the dash light mod : https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/xj-...126507/index2/

To get to the lights you need to remove the dash bezel, should be 4 screws. Then there are a few screws that hold the cluster in. Pull the cluster toward you and disconnect the electrical connectors on the back. Then twist the bulb sockets out of the cluster and put new bulbs in.

I assume it is the dash lights for the cluster. The warning lights all work when
you turn the key over.

If it is the dash lights, none of them work

Would they all be out at once?

Does it make sense that they would flicker on once and then go out...

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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No that doesn't make sense to me. I had a dash light problem but it was solved with new headlight switch.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:01 PM
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I feel dumb even mentioning it, but you DO know you trun the **** to turn them on, off dim/bright? Believe it or not some people have hardly seen a ****! (everything now is buttons)
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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I had an issue with mine I finally traced it down to a short between the 3 switches (under the HVAC controls) (namely the rear wiper) and the headlight switch. Im guessing the dash had been out and a wire got pinched .I traced the harness out from the fuse panel to the headlight switch. had the dash out 3 different times, I ended up running a seperate wire and an inline fuse up the the cluster. I lost all the lights : dash cluster shift indicater,radio,panel,4x4 shifter. It was a huge deal as the jeep was my wifes daily.
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
I feel dumb even mentioning it, but you DO know you trun the **** to turn them on, off dim/bright? Believe it or not some people have hardly seen a ****! (everything now is buttons)
Yes we turned the ****, but thanks for offering it up

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aljay
I had an issue with mine I finally traced it down to a short between the 3 switches (under the HVAC controls) (namely the rear wiper) and the headlight switch. Im guessing the dash had been out and a wire got pinched .I traced the harness out from the fuse panel to the headlight switch. had the dash out 3 different times, I ended up running a seperate wire and an inline fuse up the the cluster. I lost all the lights : dash cluster shift indicater,radio,panel,4x4 shifter. It was a huge deal as the jeep was my wifes daily.
Shifter lights are out too...


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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 12:10 AM
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This is going to sound off but trust me on this one.

Take your headliner down and make sure the wires running to the map lights are in good shape. If the pink wire gets clipped you'll have these issues. Went through it with my 00.

I mean it could be a short elsewhere.
But it's something to think about.

There is a good possibility you have blown a fusible link also.. Which are a pain in the butt to track down.
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Do make sure your tale-lights are working. One early morning I wondered why my dash lights were out. About 17 hrs (and 300mi) later I got stopped, (and DUI'd), because the tale lights were out. On my 90 they use the same fuse. I had blown it the day before with bad trailer wiring. I sort of wish I'd have checked that fuse. Yours may well be different, but you might check the tale-lights anyway. I might hold off on pulling the headliner.
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
Do make sure your tale-lights are working. One early morning I wondered why my dash lights were out. About 17 hrs (and 300mi) later I got stopped, (and DUI'd), because the tale lights were out. On my 90 they use the same fuse. I had blown it the day before with bad trailer wiring. I sort of wish I'd have checked that fuse. Yours may well be different, but you might check the tale-lights anyway. I might hold off on pulling the headliner.
Tail lights are not working either ( I read somewhere that the tail lights
and dash lights are some now connected)(I pulled every clear fuse in the footwell
and power distribution center and none were blown)

Where is that fuse? - is it one of the square fuses in the power distribution center)

Brake lights, turn signal and reverse lights work.

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Originally Posted by NewJerseyXJ609
This is going to sound off but trust me on this one.

Take your headliner down and make sure the wires running to the map lights are in good shape. If the pink wire gets clipped you'll have these issues. Went through it with my 00.

I mean it could be a short elsewhere.
But it's something to think about.

There is a good possibility you have blown a fusible link also.. Which are a pain in the butt to track down.
Anything special I need to know about pulling the headliner?


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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Did you check all the mini fuses in the power distribution center under the hood?
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Originally Posted by Muaddib420
Did you check all the mini fuses in the power distribution center under the hood?
Yes


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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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We got it


It was a 20A fuse in the PDC Mini Fuse.
Found it with a fuse tester. Could not see it when I looked.

We'll see if it holds or blows again


It blew when we were turning the headlight switch.

We replaced the headlight switch, first.

I'm wondering if it the headlight switch being bad could have
blown the fuse?


Tks for the help everyone


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